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  • bencotterill@mastodon.socialB bencotterill@mastodon.social

    @neil @revk I prefer the staff to know it off by heart. I did.

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    @BenCotterill @revk We are still talking about a shop window, right?

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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      @BenCotterill @revk We are still talking about a shop window, right?

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      @neil @revk Yeah.

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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        @BenCotterill @revk Yep, both have their place.

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        @neil @BenCotterill @revk And the place for QR codes is the bin. I'd rather pick up and reuse needles from the ground than follow a link that could be pointing literally anywhere because it's not human readable.

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        • kitten_tech@fosstodon.orgK kitten_tech@fosstodon.org

          @revk a similar thing that saddens me is shop/van signs saying "https://joes-garden-services.com/ joesgarden2241@gmail.com"... You've got that lovely domain, why not use it for email? 😞

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          @kitten_tech @revk
          … while most of Joe’s online ‘traffic’ goes via a Facebook page. Where everything’s an image (& not a scrap of alt-text). I despair!

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          • woe2you@beige.partyW woe2you@beige.party

            @neil @BenCotterill @revk And the place for QR codes is the bin. I'd rather pick up and reuse needles from the ground than follow a link that could be pointing literally anywhere because it's not human readable.

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            @woe2you @neil @BenCotterill My iphone shows me the domain before I follow the link.

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            • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

              @woe2you @neil @BenCotterill My iphone shows me the domain before I follow the link.

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              @revk @woe2you @BenCotterill

              Same here on Android.

              As I say, I prefer to see the content separately, but I appreciate the convenience of a QR code.

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                @revk @woe2you @BenCotterill

                Same here on Android.

                As I say, I prefer to see the content separately, but I appreciate the convenience of a QR code.

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                @neil @revk @woe2you @BenCotterill Of course, this is another reason to show the code for mycompany.co.uk rather than dodgyintermediaries.com.

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                • rogerbw@discordian.socialR rogerbw@discordian.social

                  @neil @revk @woe2you @BenCotterill Of course, this is another reason to show the code for mycompany.co.uk rather than dodgyintermediaries.com.

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                  @RogerBW @neil @woe2you @BenCotterill Indeed.

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    @revk @woe2you @BenCotterill

                    Same here on Android.

                    As I say, I prefer to see the content separately, but I appreciate the convenience of a QR code.

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                    @revk @woe2you @BenCotterill

                    But I am, I suppose, coming at this from the perspective of a QR code for a URL *where the actual URL of the target* is in the QR code. Not some "QR-code-as-a-service" proxy.

                    But then I feel the same about link shorteners etc., for plain text URLs: just show me the actual destination.

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                    • rogerbw@discordian.socialR rogerbw@discordian.social

                      @neil @revk @woe2you @BenCotterill Of course, this is another reason to show the code for mycompany.co.uk rather than dodgyintermediaries.com.

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                      @RogerBW @revk @woe2you @BenCotterill

                      Yes, snap.

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        @revk @woe2you @BenCotterill

                        But I am, I suppose, coming at this from the perspective of a QR code for a URL *where the actual URL of the target* is in the QR code. Not some "QR-code-as-a-service" proxy.

                        But then I feel the same about link shorteners etc., for plain text URLs: just show me the actual destination.

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                        @neil @revk @BenCotterill At this point it's safe to assume all shortening is explicitly to disguise tracking.

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                        • karadanvers@social.chiefgyk3d.comK karadanvers@social.chiefgyk3d.com

                          @revk thats why i run my own short url with qr code website to avoid this

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                          @KaraDanvers @revk
                          No need for a short URL (They are terrible things).
                          Also loads of free QR code generation SW.
                          Inkscape is one.

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                          • jelte@mastodon.nlJ jelte@mastodon.nl

                            @revk because most people don't know that a qr code is just some text in reliably scannable form. They think it's some complicated magic thing that requires Services.

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                            @jelte @revk And the Services, which appear as sponsored results at the top of the Google results, aren't up front about what they are offering.

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                            • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                              Why do people fall for this?

                              Second time I have seen a nicely printed sign in a shop window with a #QR which when scanned says your free trial is over.

                              Just make the QR go to your own website FFS.

                              [helpful info: my free code tools https://qr.revk.uk and web QR encoder https://4.gg at bottom of page - includes a lot of QR abuse as well]

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                              @revk Some companies use a QR code forwarder to send the user to the relevant App Store based on iPhone/Android user agent. If you check the parking companies’ TrustPilot reviews, you will find people who have been scammed by the interstitial ad, because the company is using the ad supported version instead of paying. It happed at my day job. Thanks, marketing department!

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                              • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                                Why do people fall for this?

                                Second time I have seen a nicely printed sign in a shop window with a #QR which when scanned says your free trial is over.

                                Just make the QR go to your own website FFS.

                                [helpful info: my free code tools https://qr.revk.uk and web QR encoder https://4.gg at bottom of page - includes a lot of QR abuse as well]

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                                @revk
                                Missing (so far) in the replies is how to generate a QR code with the text or URL you want. I didn't know.

                                I accidentally found out that using duckduckgo to search for "qr code https://www.example.com" generates the qr code.

                                (Initially I searched for "qr code format" and was surprised, but delighted, to be presented with a QR code that represents the word "format")

                                The Wikipedia page on QR codes suggests LibreOffice can generate them too

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                                • mark@social.markiswrit.ingM mark@social.markiswrit.ing

                                  @jelte @revk And the Services, which appear as sponsored results at the top of the Google results, aren't up front about what they are offering.

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                                  @mark yeah those are almost by definition going to be predatory 😞

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                                  • rogerbw@discordian.socialR rogerbw@discordian.social

                                    @neil @revk @woe2you @BenCotterill Of course, this is another reason to show the code for mycompany.co.uk rather than dodgyintermediaries.com.

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                                    @RogerBW @neil @woe2you @BenCotterill May have to register dodgyintermediaries.com

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                                    • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

                                      @KaraDanvers @revk
                                      No need for a short URL (They are terrible things).
                                      Also loads of free QR code generation SW.
                                      Inkscape is one.

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                                      @raymaccarthy @KaraDanvers I did not know added to inkscape... I have https://4.gg

                                      Yes it does short URLs but bottom of page codes any QR you want.

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                                      • happysteve@mas.toH happysteve@mas.to

                                        @revk
                                        Missing (so far) in the replies is how to generate a QR code with the text or URL you want. I didn't know.

                                        I accidentally found out that using duckduckgo to search for "qr code https://www.example.com" generates the qr code.

                                        (Initially I searched for "qr code format" and was surprised, but delighted, to be presented with a QR code that represents the word "format")

                                        The Wikipedia page on QR codes suggests LibreOffice can generate them too

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                                        @happysteve Yeh inkscape, and many other. I wrote a QR generator, see HTTPS://QR.REVK.UK

                                        You can also generate at HTTPS://4.GG

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                                        • revk@toot.me.ukR revk@toot.me.uk

                                          @raymaccarthy @KaraDanvers I did not know added to inkscape... I have https://4.gg

                                          Yes it does short URLs but bottom of page codes any QR you want.

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                                          @revk @KaraDanvers
                                          Short URLS are *potentially* evil as you can't know what they are for.
                                          My phone app to read barcodes & QR codes displays the text and offers a selection of options, which may include the default web browser.

                                          I (and others) never click/tap a short URL. They seem to have been invented for Twitter. Here uses 23 chars no matter what length URL is and real URLs are no problem for QR codes.

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