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Have you have heard of the saying "to read someone the Riot Act", in the sense of warning someone / telling someone off?

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  • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

    @neil

    Indeed!

    Perhaps a dramatic reading of the Hacker Manifesto for your next performance? 🙂

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    @simonzerafa @neil

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    • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

      @neil

      Umm. I don't remember them doing so during the various 1980's riots so probably quite archaic.

      Additional: The AI in my Internet search engine confidently states in was the Criminal Law Act 1967 for England and Wales and 1973 for Scotland and Northern Ireland.

      That's might even be correct! Not as archaic as I thought 🤷‍♂️

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      @simonzerafa @neil the text states the act was made in the first year of King George. I don't know which King George it's referring to, but Elizabeth II had been monarch for 15 years by 1967, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say the AI is spouting bollocks.

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      • rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.orgR rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.org

        @simonzerafa @neil the text states the act was made in the first year of King George. I don't know which King George it's referring to, but Elizabeth II had been monarch for 15 years by 1967, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say the AI is spouting bollocks.

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        @rpbook @simonzerafa

        Those dates probably relate to the *revocation* of the Act, rather than the Act itself.

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        • simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS simonzerafa@infosec.exchange

          @neil

          Indeed!

          Perhaps a dramatic reading of the Hacker Manifesto for your next performance? 🙂

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          @simonzerafa I might have done that - I don't recall.

          I've definitely done the Declaration of Independence of Cyberspace.

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          • rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.orgR rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.org

            @simonzerafa @neil the text states the act was made in the first year of King George. I don't know which King George it's referring to, but Elizabeth II had been monarch for 15 years by 1967, so I'm going to go out on a limb and say the AI is spouting bollocks.

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            @simonzerafa @neil Wikipedia says it came into force in 1715 and was repealed in England and Wales in 1967.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Riot_Act

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            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

              Have you have heard of the saying "to read someone the Riot Act", in the sense of warning someone / telling someone off?

              Have you *actually read* the Riot Act?

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              @neil I think I voted wrong, but I can't change it.

              I voted "Heard of it, not read it". I've read the proclamation before, but not the full act.

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              • rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.orgR rpbook@gts.phillipsuk.org

                @neil I think I voted wrong, but I can't change it.

                I voted "Heard of it, not read it". I've read the proclamation before, but not the full act.

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                @rpbook Fortunately it is just a fun fedi poll, and really doesn't matter 🙂

                But yes, I imagine that most people who have clicked "read it" have read only a sub-section of it.

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                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                  Well, the proclamation, anyway...

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                  @neil The trick these days is getting a group of twelve or more people.

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                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                    Well, the proclamation, anyway...

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                    @neil I seem to recall reading somewhere that the threat behind those mild words was "We will summarily murder anybody who ignores this command" - is that right?

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                    • uastronomer@mastodon.monoceros.co.zaU uastronomer@mastodon.monoceros.co.za

                      @neil I seem to recall reading somewhere that the threat behind those mild words was "We will summarily murder anybody who ignores this command" - is that right?

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                      @uastronomer

                      > to the number of twelve or more (notwithstanding such proclamation made) unlawfully, riotously, and tumultuously remain or continue together by the space of one hour after such command or request made by proclamation, that then such continuing together to the number of twelve or more, after such command or request made by proclamation, shall be adjudged felony without benefit of clergy, and the offenders therein shall be adjudged felons, and *shall suffer death as in a case of felony without benefit of clergy*.

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        @rpbook Fortunately it is just a fun fedi poll, and really doesn't matter 🙂

                        But yes, I imagine that most people who have clicked "read it" have read only a sub-section of it.

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                        @neil that's autistic brain for you. Most people assume "read it" means the proclamation, I assume it means the whole act 🙄

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                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                          Well, the proclamation, anyway...

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                          @neil This is great, thank you for doing it.

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                          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                            Have you have heard of the saying "to read someone the Riot Act", in the sense of warning someone / telling someone off?

                            Have you *actually read* the Riot Act?

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                            @neil There's a very good B&W film called "The Hill", which involves an insurrection in a British army prison in North Africa.

                            At one point, the RSM, who's been responsible for the conditions leading to the unrest, walks into the prison block.

                            RSM: <holds a book in the air> "If there's any more trouble, I'll read you the riot act. You know how long it takes. And if that doesn't have any effect, I'll charge the ringleaders with mutiny!"
                            Prisoner: "Who's the ringleaders?"
                            RSM: "EVERY FIFTH MAN!"

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                            • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                              Have you have heard of the saying "to read someone the Riot Act", in the sense of warning someone / telling someone off?

                              Have you *actually read* the Riot Act?

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                              @neil Hmm. I realise after I put in "heard of it, not read it" that I have actually read the proclamation, on Wikipedia.

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                              • darkling@mstdn.socialD darkling@mstdn.social

                                @neil There's a very good B&W film called "The Hill", which involves an insurrection in a British army prison in North Africa.

                                At one point, the RSM, who's been responsible for the conditions leading to the unrest, walks into the prison block.

                                RSM: <holds a book in the air> "If there's any more trouble, I'll read you the riot act. You know how long it takes. And if that doesn't have any effect, I'll charge the ringleaders with mutiny!"
                                Prisoner: "Who's the ringleaders?"
                                RSM: "EVERY FIFTH MAN!"

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                                @neil Film link, because I didn't have the space in the previous toot: https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0059274/

                                Sean Connery, and the wonderful Harry Andrews as the RSM.

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                                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                  Have you have heard of the saying "to read someone the Riot Act", in the sense of warning someone / telling someone off?

                                  Have you *actually read* the Riot Act?

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                                  @neil, there's that bit in ‘Jingo’ where Detritus does just that…

                                  “Dis is der Riot Act. You know what dat means? It means if'n I reads it out and youse don't disb… disp… go away, der Watch can use deadly force, you unnerstand?”

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                                  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                    Have you have heard of the saying "to read someone the Riot Act", in the sense of warning someone / telling someone off?

                                    Have you *actually read* the Riot Act?

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                                    @neil I have neither read it myself nor read it aloud to a group of people before arresting them.

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                                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                      @simonzerafa It is in the alt-text for the recording. I can see it on Tusky, but not in the Mastodon web client, but perhaps I am doing something wrong.

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                                      @neil @simonzerafa I can't see the alt text in Tusky on phone.

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                                      • annehargreaves@ioc.exchangeA annehargreaves@ioc.exchange

                                        @neil @simonzerafa I can't see the alt text in Tusky on phone.

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                                        @annehargreaves @simonzerafa Curious!

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                                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                          @annehargreaves @simonzerafa Curious!

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                                          @annehargreaves@ioc.exchange @simonzerafa@infosec.exchange @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                          I see it no problem in my Wafrn

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