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  • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
    wrote last edited by
    #4

    @amin In which case, perhaps I am not as isolated as I thought.

    It doesn't surprise me that *some* other people have this perspective, but I wonder how common it is.

    tschenkel@mathstodon.xyzT david_chisnall@infosec.exchangeD 2 Replies Last reply
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    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

      *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

      Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

      I love reading.

      I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

      I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

      Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

      theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.ukT This user is from outside of this forum
      theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.ukT This user is from outside of this forum
      theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.uk
      wrote last edited by
      #5

      @neil Definitely not alone on this.

      theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.ukT 1 Reply Last reply
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      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

        *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

        Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

        I love reading.

        I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

        I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

        Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

        diffractie@glitterkitten.co.ukD This user is from outside of this forum
        diffractie@glitterkitten.co.ukD This user is from outside of this forum
        diffractie@glitterkitten.co.uk
        wrote last edited by
        #6

        @neil I'm still trying to find the right words for why Ai stuff feels so unappealing. I think it's that they have no provenance? Theres nothing to contextualise it.

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        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

          *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

          Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

          I love reading.

          I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

          I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

          Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

          bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB This user is from outside of this forum
          bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB This user is from outside of this forum
          bstacey@icosahedron.website
          wrote last edited by
          #7

          @neil I also continue to hold this position.

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          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

            *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

            Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

            I love reading.

            I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

            I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

            Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

            signaleleven@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
            signaleleven@social.tchncs.deS This user is from outside of this forum
            signaleleven@social.tchncs.de
            wrote last edited by
            #8

            @neil please. Isolated? Nobody wants to read slop. Not even people who like AI for some specific application.
            What prompted this lukewarm take? πŸ™‚

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            • theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.ukT theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.uk

              @neil Definitely not alone on this.

              theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.ukT This user is from outside of this forum
              theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.ukT This user is from outside of this forum
              theplaguedoc@glitterkitten.co.uk
              wrote last edited by
              #9

              @neil (and I'll take any author recommendations you might care to share)

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              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

                Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

                I love reading.

                I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

                I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

                Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

                frazzledbrynn@glitterkitten.co.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
                frazzledbrynn@glitterkitten.co.ukF This user is from outside of this forum
                frazzledbrynn@glitterkitten.co.uk
                wrote last edited by
                #10

                @neil What I found really depressingly interesting is that I find it really fatiguing, and I already suffer from a huge amount of fatigue. All the dodging AI, my brain-fogged head working harder to filter things out, the heart sink as I get tricked and only later realise something was off.

                Like recipes! Following along on my phone whilst already overwhelmed by what I'm doing, and then finding out mid-way through following a recipe that, hang on a sec, this is AI nonsense.

                neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB 2 Replies Last reply
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                • kimcrawley@zeroes.caK This user is from outside of this forum
                  kimcrawley@zeroes.caK This user is from outside of this forum
                  kimcrawley@zeroes.ca
                  wrote last edited by
                  #11

                  @stroobl

                  No! πŸ–•πŸ»πŸ–•πŸ»πŸ–•πŸ»

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                  • signaleleven@social.tchncs.deS signaleleven@social.tchncs.de

                    @neil please. Isolated? Nobody wants to read slop. Not even people who like AI for some specific application.
                    What prompted this lukewarm take? πŸ™‚

                    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
                    wrote last edited by
                    #12

                    @signaleleven

                    Someone was posting here about preferring "AI news" because they said that it was unbiased.

                    Someone posted an AI-generated "summary" of something.

                    More websites are using AI-generated images.

                    Do you not see this kind of thing?

                    odd@mstdn.socialO noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN 2 Replies Last reply
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                    • frazzledbrynn@glitterkitten.co.ukF frazzledbrynn@glitterkitten.co.uk

                      @neil What I found really depressingly interesting is that I find it really fatiguing, and I already suffer from a huge amount of fatigue. All the dodging AI, my brain-fogged head working harder to filter things out, the heart sink as I get tricked and only later realise something was off.

                      Like recipes! Following along on my phone whilst already overwhelmed by what I'm doing, and then finding out mid-way through following a recipe that, hang on a sec, this is AI nonsense.

                      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                      neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
                      wrote last edited by
                      #13

                      @FrazzledBrynn AI-generated "recipes" are indeed one of the only ways that most recipe sites could be made worse!

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                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                        *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

                        Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

                        I love reading.

                        I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

                        I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

                        Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

                        wobweger@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                        wobweger@mstdn.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
                        wobweger@mstdn.social
                        wrote last edited by
                        #14

                        @neil 🧑
                        you are not alone
                        you're not isolated
                        your are in fact well connected to the human condition, having resisted years long propaganda on almost all channels
                        #salami slop is no good
                        πŸ––

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                        • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                          *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

                          Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

                          I love reading.

                          I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

                          I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

                          Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

                          ahnlak@kavlak.ukA This user is from outside of this forum
                          ahnlak@kavlak.ukA This user is from outside of this forum
                          ahnlak@kavlak.uk
                          wrote last edited by
                          #15

                          @neil I find AI images a really strong flag that I'm not going to want to read an article.

                          I suspect at least part of the problem is that "experts" will tell you that a web page *has* to have an image to represent it (because that's what algorithms want), and people are panicked into finding *something* to fill that void.

                          rubyjones@wandering.shopR lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meL 2 Replies Last reply
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                          • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                            neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                            neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
                            wrote last edited by
                            #16

                            @stroobl I'd prefer documentation written by a human?

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                            • frazzledbrynn@glitterkitten.co.ukF frazzledbrynn@glitterkitten.co.uk

                              @neil What I found really depressingly interesting is that I find it really fatiguing, and I already suffer from a huge amount of fatigue. All the dodging AI, my brain-fogged head working harder to filter things out, the heart sink as I get tricked and only later realise something was off.

                              Like recipes! Following along on my phone whilst already overwhelmed by what I'm doing, and then finding out mid-way through following a recipe that, hang on a sec, this is AI nonsense.

                              bstacey@icosahedron.websiteB This user is from outside of this forum
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                              bstacey@icosahedron.website
                              wrote last edited by
                              #17

                              @FrazzledBrynn @neil Ah, damn, that's gotta suck.

                              I like to cook, but I don't even try looking up recipes online any more, unless they're verifiably from the pre-slop era. Fortunately, we have a shelf of cookbooks and I've gotten pretty good at winging things for a weeknight dinner.

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                              • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

                                Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

                                I love reading.

                                I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

                                I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

                                Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

                                rubyjones@wandering.shopR This user is from outside of this forum
                                rubyjones@wandering.shopR This user is from outside of this forum
                                rubyjones@wandering.shop
                                wrote last edited by
                                #18

                                @neil Most writers and artists I know think the same, but the gap between those people and those who consume art and fiction - especially among programmers - is really depressing.

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                                • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                  *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

                                  Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

                                  I love reading.

                                  I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

                                  I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

                                  Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

                                  wurzelmann@mastodon.wurzelmann.atW This user is from outside of this forum
                                  wurzelmann@mastodon.wurzelmann.atW This user is from outside of this forum
                                  wurzelmann@mastodon.wurzelmann.at
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #19

                                  @neil I'm with you on that hill. ✊

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                                  • rubyjones@wandering.shopR rubyjones@wandering.shop

                                    @neil Most writers and artists I know think the same, but the gap between those people and those who consume art and fiction - especially among programmers - is really depressing.

                                    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                                    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN This user is from outside of this forum
                                    neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #20

                                    @rubyjones On the consumption side, I am absolutely in a fortunate position that I can afford to pay, and see value in paying, for books, to support authors, and so on (although I suppose that I see blogs as free-to-read). Perhaps there's a circle there.

                                    Slop has no value to me, so I would not knowingly pay for it.

                                    But perhaps someone who doesn't value creativity or human expression would not willingly pay for it anyway, so slop is attractive enough?

                                    (Sorry, pondering aloud here.)

                                    rubyjones@wandering.shopR noodlemaz@mstdn.gamesN 2 Replies Last reply
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                                    • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                      @signaleleven

                                      Someone was posting here about preferring "AI news" because they said that it was unbiased.

                                      Someone posted an AI-generated "summary" of something.

                                      More websites are using AI-generated images.

                                      Do you not see this kind of thing?

                                      odd@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                                      odd@mstdn.socialO This user is from outside of this forum
                                      odd@mstdn.social
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #21

                                      @neil I haven't seen such posts here at all. Tbh it sounds like a troll because AI generated content is anything but unbiased. And in my experience, people around here are well aware of this.

                                      That said, at work and around the internet at large I see more and more people using AI. Some because they believe in the technology, others because they feel its the normal thing to do now.

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                                      • neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.ukN neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk

                                        *Edit*: here at least, I am clearly not isolated!

                                        Perhaps I am increasingly isolated in holding this position, but I have no interest in reading "AI"-generated slop.

                                        I love reading.

                                        I read people's blogs and toots and whatever *because people wrote them* and I want to read their own thoughts and opinions.

                                        I buy books, and read numerous different authors. I like finding new authors, bringing new ideas, styles etc.

                                        Same with "AI" images. I'd prefer no image at all.

                                        futureisfoss@fosstodon.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
                                        futureisfoss@fosstodon.orgF This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #22

                                        @neil That is not an unpopular opinion, not at all.

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                                        • ahnlak@kavlak.ukA ahnlak@kavlak.uk

                                          @neil I find AI images a really strong flag that I'm not going to want to read an article.

                                          I suspect at least part of the problem is that "experts" will tell you that a web page *has* to have an image to represent it (because that's what algorithms want), and people are panicked into finding *something* to fill that void.

                                          rubyjones@wandering.shopR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          rubyjones@wandering.shop
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #23

                                          @ahnlak @neil The thing is... Pixabay exists! I used it all the time when I worked in Marketing. I think you can spend a lot more time messing around trying to get your 'prompt' to give you what you want than you would just going to Pixabay and finding a public domain image.

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