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New blog entry: More in Sadness than in Anger: https://www.antipope.org/charlie/blog-static/2026/02/more-in-sadness-than-in-anger.html

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  • callisto@disabled.socialC callisto@disabled.social

    @trademark @jsl @cstross Of course not, and you're proving my point. The Overton Ratchet only moves in one direction in the USA. We're not allowed to demand better from our leaders, because omg what about that worse person.

    "Most to the left of any US president ever" is nonsense. Please read some history. But more importantly, if you're unwilling to listen to anyone to your left, you're missing the entire point. Dems keep losing BECAUSE they offer nothing but "we're not Trump."

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    @callisto @jsl @cstross Your point is exactly what I am arguing against in the first place I'm saying "don't attack somebody who does what you want just because you don't perceive them as being leftist" And you you're saying "you don't understand HE IS NOT A LEFTIST!" Biden moved the Overton window leftwards, even standing on a picket line and for this he was attacked by the left.

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      @callisto @jsl @cstross Your point is exactly what I am arguing against in the first place I'm saying "don't attack somebody who does what you want just because you don't perceive them as being leftist" And you you're saying "you don't understand HE IS NOT A LEFTIST!" Biden moved the Overton window leftwards, even standing on a picket line and for this he was attacked by the left.

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      @trademark @jsl @cstross And you're saying I'm attacking him by saying he isn't a leftist.

      AND pulling out the sole issue - labor - on which he truly was significantly to the left of predecessors post FDR, neglecting the issues on which he was to the right of Reagan.

      Okay.

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      • callisto@disabled.socialC callisto@disabled.social

        @trademark @jsl @cstross And you're saying I'm attacking him by saying he isn't a leftist.

        AND pulling out the sole issue - labor - on which he truly was significantly to the left of predecessors post FDR, neglecting the issues on which he was to the right of Reagan.

        Okay.

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        @callisto @jsl @cstross I showed that your claim that Biden did not listen to the left was false with an example of him listening. Now you are saying that this was the sole issue, which is also wrong, another instance of him listening to the left is with the stock buyback tax he introduced. This was a major outstretched hand to the left, but instead of taking it, the left spit in his face. It burned his relationship with Silicon Valley and this is why they turned hard right. Great job leftists!

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          @callisto @jsl @cstross I showed that your claim that Biden did not listen to the left was false with an example of him listening. Now you are saying that this was the sole issue, which is also wrong, another instance of him listening to the left is with the stock buyback tax he introduced. This was a major outstretched hand to the left, but instead of taking it, the left spit in his face. It burned his relationship with Silicon Valley and this is why they turned hard right. Great job leftists!

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          @callisto @jsl @cstross Any further comments Mr. Stross?

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          • gjm@mathstodon.xyzG gjm@mathstodon.xyz

            @javierg @cstross How is Gates responsible for millions of deaths during the pandemic?

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            @gjm @cstross

            found it: https://pluralistic.net/2021/04/13/public-interest-pharma/#gates-foundation

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            • javierg@mstdn.socialJ javierg@mstdn.social

              @gjm @cstross

              found it: https://pluralistic.net/2021/04/13/public-interest-pharma/#gates-foundation

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              @gjm @cstross

              more recent ref: "In the 2000s, the Gates Foundation blocked South Africa from procuring the anti-retroviral AIDS drugs it was entitled to under the WTO's TRIPS agreement. The Gates Foundation blocked the Access to Medicines WIPO treaty, which would have vastly expanded the Global South's ability to manufacture life-saving drugs."

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                @gjm @cstross

                more recent ref: "In the 2000s, the Gates Foundation blocked South Africa from procuring the anti-retroviral AIDS drugs it was entitled to under the WTO's TRIPS agreement. The Gates Foundation blocked the Access to Medicines WIPO treaty, which would have vastly expanded the Global South's ability to manufacture life-saving drugs."

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                @gjm @cstross

                ... "And during the acute phase of the covid pandemic, Gates personally intervened to kill the WHO Covid-19 Technology Access Pool and to get Oxford to renege on its promise to make an open-source vaccine"

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                • javierg@mstdn.socialJ javierg@mstdn.social

                  @gjm @cstross

                  ... "And during the acute phase of the covid pandemic, Gates personally intervened to kill the WHO Covid-19 Technology Access Pool and to get Oxford to renege on its promise to make an open-source vaccine"

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                  @javierg @gjm @cstross I've only been saying that Gates is a terrible human being for 40 years. Are people finally catching on?

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                  • pzmyers@freethought.onlineP pzmyers@freethought.online

                    @javierg @gjm @cstross I've only been saying that Gates is a terrible human being for 40 years. Are people finally catching on?

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                    @pzmyers @javierg @gjm Some of us also caught on 40 years ago, but apparently: yes.

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                    • javierg@mstdn.socialJ javierg@mstdn.social

                      @gjm @cstross

                      ... "And during the acute phase of the covid pandemic, Gates personally intervened to kill the WHO Covid-19 Technology Access Pool and to get Oxford to renege on its promise to make an open-source vaccine"

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                      @javierg @gjm @cstross

                      Yeah, he's scum

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                      Bill Gates and Jeffrey Epstein w/ Tim Schwab - Tech Won’t Save Us

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                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                        @pzmyers @javierg @gjm Some of us also caught on 40 years ago, but apparently: yes.

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                        @cstross I think there's an unusual degree of cognitive dissonance between the cultural (money = virtue), the propaganda (Gates spends on his image), and the "exceptionally terrible even considering" reality.

                        It would be nice to be able to believe these people with such vast and august power weren't ethically deficient by the standards of your common-or-garden city-burning slave-taking barbarian.

                        @pzmyers @javierg @gjm

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                        • graydon@canada.masto.hostG graydon@canada.masto.host

                          @cstross I think there's an unusual degree of cognitive dissonance between the cultural (money = virtue), the propaganda (Gates spends on his image), and the "exceptionally terrible even considering" reality.

                          It would be nice to be able to believe these people with such vast and august power weren't ethically deficient by the standards of your common-or-garden city-burning slave-taking barbarian.

                          @pzmyers @javierg @gjm

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                          @graydon @cstross @pzmyers @javierg@mstdn.social @gjm

                          Turns out you can't make a billion dollars without also being an extremely bad person. 🤷‍♂️

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                          • javierg@mstdn.socialJ javierg@mstdn.social

                            @gjm @cstross

                            ... "And during the acute phase of the covid pandemic, Gates personally intervened to kill the WHO Covid-19 Technology Access Pool and to get Oxford to renege on its promise to make an open-source vaccine"

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                            @javierg @gjm @cstross is there any understanding of a motivation here? i don’t think “profit” makes sense, and although he sucks badly, i don’t get “malevolence” either

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                            • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                              @pzmyers @javierg @gjm Some of us also caught on 40 years ago, but apparently: yes.

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                              @cstross I think most everybody thought Gates was terrible by the turn of the century, which is why he's spent 25 years and tens of billions of dollars convincing people he's actually a philanthropist.

                              And it was working out pretty well for him up until all the sex pest/Epstein buddy stuff caught up with him. @pzmyers @javierg

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                              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                @pzmyers @javierg @gjm Some of us also caught on 40 years ago, but apparently: yes.

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                                @cstross @pzmyers @javierg @gjm I don't know if anyone else saw it, but there was a miniseries on Netflix (I think) a few years back about Bill Gates' various philanthropic efforts, each episode about a different one

                                It only took until about the second episode for me to realize it was obviously some kind of paid/funded propaganda, it was entirely uncritical. But the funniest part was in the last episode, they must have realised they had to ask at least SOMETHING critical or it would be too obvious it was a puff piece

                                So the interviewer asks Gates, "what do you say about the fact that none of these projects has actually been successful yet?" and Gates had no good answer to that question at all. I don't even remember what he did say as an answer, possibly because I was laughing too hard

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                                • jsl@hachyderm.ioJ jsl@hachyderm.io

                                  @trademark @cstross In the 2025 Reith lecture, Rutger Bregman makes the point that if somebody agrees with you 70%, that person ought to be your ally. The left is demanding levels of purity far, far higher and that harms their position.
                                  Look at Evangelical Fundamentalists and Tech Bros. They have about as much in common as (as you mentioned Hitler) the German Adel had with the Socialist part of the NSDAP. Their only common goal was to get rid of the democratic institutions. That's not even close to 70% agreement.
                                  So, how can the Left get jointly behind the idea of saving the western democratic model instead of bickering with the people's front of Judea?

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                                  @jsl @trademark @cstross the problem is that those 70% allies stab you in the back sometimes. Happens a lot when anarchists cooperate with MLs

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                                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                    @trademark @jsl Labour is pursuing a bunch of very unpleasant policies—institutionalizing transphobia, banning sex education for kids, banning immigration, social media surveillance, reclassifying free speech as "terrorism"—to say nothing of pandering to the far right and running a massive rearmament program (the latter might, alas, be necessary this time round). They're trying to recapture the Tory voters who have deserted for Reform. They're going to turn Labour fascist if they continue.

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                                    @cstross @trademark @jsl they're running the standard control opposition Playbook by getting elected as a nominally left-wing party and then aliening their voter Base by doing a bunch of unpopular right when stuff, resulting in even farther right party winning the next election. Then they reset the goal posts so that the new center is between the two of them after they pushed it right

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                                    • javierg@mstdn.socialJ javierg@mstdn.social

                                      @gjm @cstross

                                      Gates is personally, actively evil on a scale seldom seen. He's responsible of millions of deaths during the pandemic, and the sequestering of lots of pharmaceutical advances that used to be freely discussed between research laboratories.

                                      Willing to kill every poor person aligns perfectly with his history.

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                                      @javierg @gjm @cstross 💯💯💯

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                                      • pzmyers@freethought.onlineP pzmyers@freethought.online

                                        @javierg @gjm @cstross I've only been saying that Gates is a terrible human being for 40 years. Are people finally catching on?

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                                        @pzmyers @javierg @gjm @cstross I've been saying the same since forever too.

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                                        • fluffykittycat@furry.engineerF fluffykittycat@furry.engineer

                                          @cstross @trademark @jsl they're running the standard control opposition Playbook by getting elected as a nominally left-wing party and then aliening their voter Base by doing a bunch of unpopular right when stuff, resulting in even farther right party winning the next election. Then they reset the goal posts so that the new center is between the two of them after they pushed it right

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                                          @fluffykittycat @cstross @jsl This supposed "playbook" would not work if leftists would actually cooperate with other leftists. It would also be superfluous since the left always fights with itself, there are too many examples in too many countries for a supposed right-wing conspiracy to be credible. This is entirely left-wing self-harm.

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