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Someone tooted a brief clip of a young man on a panel describing, devastatingly well and simply, the damage technology had wrought on the lives of younger generations.

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  • rmiddleton@mastodon.artR rmiddleton@mastodon.art

    @CiaraNi @agturcz does anyone have the source link? I'd like to see more of this discussion. I'm at a 20-something wedding this weekend where I suspect there will be dancing but at last night's welcome party I noticed no interaction with the music. It wasn't live but still the tunes had me swaying & no one else did. No single gathering defines a generation. Tonight's wedding will be a "safe space" among friends but I believe his point about socializing in public.

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    @RMiddleton @agturcz The source link is here (thanks to @Eetschrijver for sharing it)

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    Attached: 1 video Tech companies are destroying social structures, preventing young people from building romances and steady relations. Connor Leahy explains spot on how tech companies are acting in a 'wild west' fashion. Getting very rich without taking societal responsibility while leaving a great mess behind. (I was sent a link to this video on a wild-west platform, hope they're OK with me sharing it here. Find the full video here: https://nexus-instituut.nl/en/person/connor-leahy )

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    • agturcz@circumstances.runA agturcz@circumstances.run

      @CiaraNi That's one of the most significant things I've seen recently, and I've saved the link.

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      @agturcz His account is simple and devastating. Thanks for saving the link and sharing it here. I have saved it now too.

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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        @RMiddleton @agturcz The source link is here (thanks to @Eetschrijver for sharing it)

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        Joep Bos-Coenraad (@joepbc@mastodon.social)

        Attached: 1 video Tech companies are destroying social structures, preventing young people from building romances and steady relations. Connor Leahy explains spot on how tech companies are acting in a 'wild west' fashion. Getting very rich without taking societal responsibility while leaving a great mess behind. (I was sent a link to this video on a wild-west platform, hope they're OK with me sharing it here. Find the full video here: https://nexus-instituut.nl/en/person/connor-leahy )

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        @CiaraNi @RMiddleton @Eetschrijver Thanks, noted 😊

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        • rmiddleton@mastodon.artR rmiddleton@mastodon.art

          @CiaraNi @agturcz does anyone have the source link? I'd like to see more of this discussion. I'm at a 20-something wedding this weekend where I suspect there will be dancing but at last night's welcome party I noticed no interaction with the music. It wasn't live but still the tunes had me swaying & no one else did. No single gathering defines a generation. Tonight's wedding will be a "safe space" among friends but I believe his point about socializing in public.

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          @RMiddleton

          'At last night's welcome party I noticed no interaction with the music' - that is sad to think about

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            I was hopelessly vague there, I belatedly realise. I can't remember his name or the event name. It was a table debate. He was white, about 30, had gorgeous long hair. As well as young people not dancing on a night out for fear of being recorded, he talked about dating apps designed to keep you coming back; the fear of being recorded if you try to chat to someone you're attracted to; and that none of his friends have children. He said it better than that which is why I'm seeking the actual clip.

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            @CiaraNi I'm in my 40s so didn't grow up with smartphones, but I still recognize this crippling fear of putting yourself out there or doing anything that might get you attention or ridicule. I guess smartphones and algorithmic social media took a kind of bullying that always existed and made it far more virulent.

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            • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

              @RMiddleton

              'At last night's welcome party I noticed no interaction with the music' - that is sad to think about

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              @CiaraNi @RMiddleton

              agreed. i loved dancing. i went to clubs and raves all throughout my youth. and i was never bullied in those spaces, but i was bullied in general, so i understand the fear of being recorded and then mocked

              i always feel lucky to have gotten to grow up before the internet became a thing.

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              • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                Someone tooted a brief clip of a young man on a panel describing, devastatingly well and simply, the damage technology had wrought on the lives of younger generations. Including why 'young people don't dance', which is stuck in my head ever since. I quoted it to someone today and want to send them the clip but can't find it. If this rings any bells with anyone who can point me in the right direction (please), I'd appreciate it.

                #AskFedi
                #FællesHjerne

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                @CiaraNi @agturcz @antygon oof, very powerful

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                • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                  Someone tooted a brief clip of a young man on a panel describing, devastatingly well and simply, the damage technology had wrought on the lives of younger generations. Including why 'young people don't dance', which is stuck in my head ever since. I quoted it to someone today and want to send them the clip but can't find it. If this rings any bells with anyone who can point me in the right direction (please), I'd appreciate it.

                  #AskFedi
                  #FællesHjerne

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                  @CiaraNi
                  The fact that younger generations don't feel comfortable in public to let loose and dance is extremely depressing for me to learn.

                  But, I understand the fear of being captured on video for the rest of time during moments of vulnerability .

                  In the pre-cell phone era of the 80s and 90s, dancing was my weekend therapy. Dancing to DJs and live music with friends and strangers.

                  Some of the most uplifting moments of my life.

                  A slice of the dancing life: https://youtu.be/N3cDi9dgJ6g?si=WE04mZjRVIzgNe7h

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                    @CiaraNi
                    The fact that younger generations don't feel comfortable in public to let loose and dance is extremely depressing for me to learn.

                    But, I understand the fear of being captured on video for the rest of time during moments of vulnerability .

                    In the pre-cell phone era of the 80s and 90s, dancing was my weekend therapy. Dancing to DJs and live music with friends and strangers.

                    Some of the most uplifting moments of my life.

                    A slice of the dancing life: https://youtu.be/N3cDi9dgJ6g?si=WE04mZjRVIzgNe7h

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                    @shansterable @CiaraNi The "kids don't dance" part of the discussion immediately made me think of video artifacts like this (I think more of videos from 70s/80s punk shows, but mutatis mutandis) and--although the fact that the loss of young people being able to experience the freedom of reckless youth is generationally tragic--I feel an equally tragic loss of anthropology. I hate the 80s, and this video is still wonderful.

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                    • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                      Someone tooted a brief clip of a young man on a panel describing, devastatingly well and simply, the damage technology had wrought on the lives of younger generations. Including why 'young people don't dance', which is stuck in my head ever since. I quoted it to someone today and want to send them the clip but can't find it. If this rings any bells with anyone who can point me in the right direction (please), I'd appreciate it.

                      #AskFedi
                      #FællesHjerne

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                      @CiaraNi @agturcz @antygon i mean, i don't want to diss the lad, i feel he's onto something. but do *no* young people dance? that seems hopelessly broad.

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                      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                        Someone tooted a brief clip of a young man on a panel describing, devastatingly well and simply, the damage technology had wrought on the lives of younger generations. Including why 'young people don't dance', which is stuck in my head ever since. I quoted it to someone today and want to send them the clip but can't find it. If this rings any bells with anyone who can point me in the right direction (please), I'd appreciate it.

                        #AskFedi
                        #FællesHjerne

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                        @CiaraNi @agturcz @antygon

                        One of the things I absolutely LOVE about the #livecoding movement, and particularly (?) #pastagang is that this isn't true.

                        Young people (and older people, who cares about biological age?) making music using technology, and deliberately saying that it doesn't matter if it's shit music, it doesn't have to be polished, it's not there for an algorithm (ironic, given that it's algorave music), and *yes* they're dancing. And they're being filmed. And they don't care.

                        It is fucking glorious.

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                        • stveje@mstdn.socialS stveje@mstdn.social

                          @CiaraNi I'm in my 40s so didn't grow up with smartphones, but I still recognize this crippling fear of putting yourself out there or doing anything that might get you attention or ridicule. I guess smartphones and algorithmic social media took a kind of bullying that always existed and made it far more virulent.

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                          @stveje @CiaraNi I'm in my 50s, remember how camcorders became (a little) popular and the way all the people in a room got a deer-in-headlights stance (obviously self-conscious) when you picked up such a device and pointed it at them.

                          Manufacturers used to unfailingly put that red status light on the front of camcorders to let people know when they were recording. Nowadays that is a quaint courtesy from a bygone era. People are now constantly subdued, which is how they stay "posed" for the cams.

                          People can't simply "be" in their immediate social circles anymore. They have to be in the entire world all the time. It reminds me of an Arthur Clarke story, "The Light of Other Days".

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                          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                            Someone tooted a brief clip of a young man on a panel describing, devastatingly well and simply, the damage technology had wrought on the lives of younger generations. Including why 'young people don't dance', which is stuck in my head ever since. I quoted it to someone today and want to send them the clip but can't find it. If this rings any bells with anyone who can point me in the right direction (please), I'd appreciate it.

                            #AskFedi
                            #FællesHjerne

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                            @CiaraNi Its designed to get in-between each individual and everyone (and everything) else.

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