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When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on.

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  • crazyeddie@mastodon.socialC crazyeddie@mastodon.social

    @knowprose @GutterPoetry @jascha Wrong nuance.

    Your little hair split doesn't even matter because you left out the important bit:

    * Is there a system of misogyny in medical science that results in improper medicine? Yes.

    "But not everyone is misogynistic..." 🙄

    You're not even making a point even though you think it's a very important one.

    "nuance" <- ass

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    @crazyeddie @GutterPoetry @jascha now, derptron, if you wish to call me an ass because of that point, that's on you.

    At least you did not call me a misogynist. That was the obvious trap.

    Misogyny exists. The problem is what needs to be addressed regardless of intent, and that is bigger than all of us.

    Good talk. 🙃

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    • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

      When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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      @jascha
      There's a conspiracy theory that's been around for as long as I know; that a cure for cancer has been found, but is being kept secret because the pharmaceutical corporations have paid off the discoverer(s).
      As if someone could resist the acclaim, the historical significance and the Nobel Prize.

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      • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

        When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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        #49

        @jascha

        It can be extended to Your doctor, Politicians, People with qualificaitons, people who have given some serious consideration to etc etc

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        • kagan@wandering.shopK kagan@wandering.shop

          @jascha Also, "they paid off the scientists to say [something untrue]" (or to hide the truth) is another sign that the speaker doesn't know a damn thing about scientists (and probably has an axe to grind and/or some snake oil to sell you).

          If they were that motivated by money, they wouldn't have gone into science in the first place. They'd have gotten an MBA or something.

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          @kagan @jascha

          This one always gets me with climate scientists in particular. Like oh really? They went into climate science instead of oil and gas exploration…for the money? Hm.

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          • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

            When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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            @jascha

            Just think of all those brilliant scientists driven to evil madness BECAUSE no one would listen to them!

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            • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

              When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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              @jascha likewise, when someone says "doctors don't want you to know," it's actually that insurance companies don't want you to know.

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              • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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                @jascha I am a scientist and I want you to know that you have totally nailed it

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                • kagan@wandering.shopK kagan@wandering.shop

                  @jascha Also, "they paid off the scientists to say [something untrue]" (or to hide the truth) is another sign that the speaker doesn't know a damn thing about scientists (and probably has an axe to grind and/or some snake oil to sell you).

                  If they were that motivated by money, they wouldn't have gone into science in the first place. They'd have gotten an MBA or something.

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                  #54

                  @kagan @jascha Meh, not always true.

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                  • kimlockhartga@beige.partyK kimlockhartga@beige.party

                    @jascha

                    . . . this one neat trick. ugh.

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                    @kimlockhartga @jascha

                    …discovered by a single mom

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                    • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                      When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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                      @jascha Having worked with Data Scientists, it’s rare to find them exercised about something unless they’re very sure or concerned about it. If there was the slightest chance the data was exaggerated or incorrect they would be very quiet.

                      After all, their career depends on their reputation for providing accurate predictions.

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                      • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                        When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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                        #57

                        @jascha "*anyone* don't want you to know" is one of the title templates that I simply skip altogether. Other honorable mentions are "# must things to do to/before/with #" and "*any statement*, and why it is a good thing".

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                        • sverik@kogumus.masto.hostS sverik@kogumus.masto.host

                          @jascha Scientists don't want you to know about Roko's Basilisk.

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                          @sverik @jascha that's just religion for techbros. they reinvented it from first principles and everything.

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                          • luboganev@androiddev.socialL luboganev@androiddev.social

                            @jascha "*anyone* don't want you to know" is one of the title templates that I simply skip altogether. Other honorable mentions are "# must things to do to/before/with #" and "*any statement*, and why it is a good thing".

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                            @luboganev @jascha clickbait templates, for sure. Someone should make a clickbait hiding browser addon.

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                            • teledyn@mstdn.caT teledyn@mstdn.ca

                              @jascha

                              Just think of all those brilliant scientists driven to evil madness BECAUSE no one would listen to them!

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                              @teledyn @jascha … toiling in my … *ahem* I mean THEIR secret laboratory … someday THE WORLD will KNOW!
                              Oh yes hehe
                              They will understand … mwa ha HA HA HA

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                              • travisfw@fosstodon.orgT travisfw@fosstodon.org

                                @luboganev @jascha clickbait templates, for sure. Someone should make a clickbait hiding browser addon.

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                                @travisfw @jascha sounds like an appropriate weekend project. Too bad I'm a noob in web frontend.

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                                • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                                  When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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                                  @jascha ah yes aka "nerd vomit"

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                                  • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                                    When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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                                    @jascha that makes total sense in the real world. but you cannot overlook the fact that these motherfuckas are LARPing.

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                                    • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                                      When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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                                      @jascha TBH, I've never heard the phrase "Scientists do not want you to know" spoken or written before today.
                                      Joys of picking and choosing my life in a sane community/city/state/family.

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                                      • jascha@ohai.socialJ jascha@ohai.social

                                        When someone says „Scientists do not want you to know“ you can dismiss everything from there on. Scientists want you to know. They are desperate that you know. They can’t shut up about what they found out and want you to know.

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                                        @jascha "Scientists SHOCKED by..." thing scientists researched, painstakingly gathered evidence for, wrote and, crucially, *published* a paper on.

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                                        • sverik@kogumus.masto.hostS sverik@kogumus.masto.host

                                          @jascha Scientists don't want you to know about Roko's Basilisk.

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                                          @sverik @jascha because that site and its bullshit isn't science

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