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  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

    Holy shit.

    Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

    Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

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    @cstross

    Orban functioned as a conduit for Putin's foreign threat funding for years.

    Petrostate despots and oil oligarchs fund a lot of fascism globally.

    nytimes.com

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    (www.nytimes.com)

    https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

    Republicans & the Epstein Class cannot resist fossil fuel public corruption.

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    Konstantin Nikolaev—the Putin ally behind Mike Johnson campaign donation

    The Russian oligarch gave money to the Republican's 2018 congressional campaign via a U.S-based company in which he owned a majority.

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    The N.R.A. Spent $30 Million to Elect Trump. Was It Russian Money?

    Congressional Democrats, the F.B.I., and Robert Mueller want to know why Putin-tied oligarchs took such an interest in American gun ownership.

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    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

      Holy shit.

      Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

      Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

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      Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

      Péter Magyar called the payments a “crime” and said his government would stop the funds.

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      @cstross Gonna bet JD got paid, too.

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      • ltning@pleroma.anduin.netL ltning@pleroma.anduin.net
        @DM_Ronin @cstross Are there alternative sources? I am not going to throw money at Bloomberg 😕
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        @ltning @DM_Ronin @cstross

        https://archive.ph/IZp17
        Try there

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        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

          Holy shit.

          Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

          Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

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          Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

          Péter Magyar called the payments a “crime” and said his government would stop the funds.

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          #32

          @cstross There is a need to get down improving life rather then than to get political hang-ups. Every one comes with the same political gimmick throughout the world. We call it Democracy, but at the end of the day is there any real difference?

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          • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

            Holy shit.

            Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

            Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

            Link Preview Image
            Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

            Péter Magyar called the payments a “crime” and said his government would stop the funds.

            favicon

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            @cstross see https://bsky.app/profile/emptywheel.bsky.social/post/3mjhbhrv3mc22

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            • klausfiend@mstdn.caK klausfiend@mstdn.ca

              @GhostOnTheHalfShell @Kierkegaanks @cstross With documents confirming that MAGA bloggers like Tim Pool and Benny Johnson were funded by Russia, I think it's reasonable to conclude that CPAC became yet another Kremlin psyop, intended to disrupt and corrupt US foreign and domestic politics.

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              @klausfiend @GhostOnTheHalfShell @Kierkegaanks @cstross Became? I'm sure they were from the start, a lot longer ago that people imagine.

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              • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                Holy shit.

                Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

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                Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                Péter Magyar called the payments a “crime” and said his government would stop the funds.

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                @cstross Viktor Orban’s Hungary was more meaningful to MAGA than you think. Steve Bannon and many others visited there frequently, and many think-tanks operated from there!

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                • w6kme@mastodon.radioW w6kme@mastodon.radio

                  @klausfiend @GhostOnTheHalfShell @Kierkegaanks @cstross Became? I'm sure they were from the start, a lot longer ago that people imagine.

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                  @W6KME @GhostOnTheHalfShell @Kierkegaanks @cstross The first CPAC was during the tail end of the Cold War so I think it's reasonable to assume it wasn't always a Republican-flavored Gathering of the Juggalos, and at least once serious policy discussions occurred. (No offense intended to any Juggalos who might be reading this.)

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                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                    Holy shit.

                    Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                    Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

                    Link Preview Image
                    Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                    Péter Magyar called the payments a “crime” and said his government would stop the funds.

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                    @cstross @pluralistic And CPAC was taking the money

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                    • graydon@canada.masto.hostG graydon@canada.masto.host

                      @cstross There's this sense in which the point of taking over governments for the global right-wing conspiracy is to fund taking over other governments.

                      Looting a sovereign entity is, after all, about the most profitable thing you can do in one-lifetime time frames.

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                      @graydon @cstross This fits nicely with @anneapplebaum's thesis in Autocracy Inc. All these autocrats form a network of mutual assistance.

                      Some nodes, like Putin, are more important to the network, I guess. Orban was mostly a satellite?

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                      • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                        Holy shit.

                        Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                        Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

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                        Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                        Péter Magyar called the payments a “crime” and said his government would stop the funds.

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                        @cstross

                        A treasonous crime and Orban and his whole regime should pay for this.

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                        • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                          Holy shit.

                          Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                          Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

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                          Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                          Péter Magyar called the payments a “crime” and said his government would stop the funds.

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                          @cstross a person, whose Telegram channel I'm reading since 2022, has this take: every known (far-)right politician contemporary to us is a scam, a fraud, a con artist, a grifter, and a thief. This heuristic more or less holds, with almost no exceptions.

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                          • graydon@canada.masto.hostG graydon@canada.masto.host

                            @darkling Pretty much, yes.

                            Only with greater scope; private equity firms don't have the ability of a sovereign to make things legal.

                            (You can view everything since 1500 as a process of enclosure and not be hugely wrong in terms of economic history. Which is a detached way of saying "farming human lifespan".)

                            @cstross

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                            @graydon @darkling @cstross pretty grim point of view. Fundametally correct though (well, I give it inordinately high probability of being correct). And, as with many other general things, it came to different parts of the world at somewhat different times.

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                            • militant_dilettante@mastodon.socialM militant_dilettante@mastodon.social

                              @cstross a person, whose Telegram channel I'm reading since 2022, has this take: every known (far-)right politician contemporary to us is a scam, a fraud, a con artist, a grifter, and a thief. This heuristic more or less holds, with almost no exceptions.

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                              @militant_dilettante I suspect there used to be some who weren't, who genuinely thought they were doing the right thing for their nation … and they got shoved out of the way or trampled by the mob. And then there's Liz Truss, who *believes* every scam, fraud, and grift they feed her and earnestly regurgitates them without understanding what it's really about (she's the comic relief on the lecture circuit).

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                              • kierkegaanks@beige.partyK kierkegaanks@beige.party

                                @cstross let’s guess where the money came from. Taxpayers in Hungary or Russia

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                                @Kierkegaanks @cstross wouldn't be surprised, if from Russia. The balding little man was, and is, very fond of spending our nation's endowment on such things.

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                                • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                  Holy shit.

                                  Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                                  Magyar noted that his government will be investigating Orbán’s expenditures, and will no longer finance CPAC or other right-wing institutions abroad.

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                                  Hungary’s New Leader Reveals Viktor Orbán Was Paying CPAC

                                  Péter Magyar called the payments a “crime” and said his government would stop the funds.

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                                  @cstross The main far-right party in Spain Vox is known for their ties and money coming from Hungary.

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                                  • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                    @militant_dilettante I suspect there used to be some who weren't, who genuinely thought they were doing the right thing for their nation … and they got shoved out of the way or trampled by the mob. And then there's Liz Truss, who *believes* every scam, fraud, and grift they feed her and earnestly regurgitates them without understanding what it's really about (she's the comic relief on the lecture circuit).

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                                    @cstross oh, yes, there might be some types of "true believers", and there might be some incredibly gullible persons. I think, we have both locally, within the so called "Z-movement" for example, and in other places.
                                    Liz-Who-Didn't-Outlive-A-Head-Of-Salad?

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                                    • cstross@wandering.shopC cstross@wandering.shop

                                      @militant_dilettante I suspect there used to be some who weren't, who genuinely thought they were doing the right thing for their nation … and they got shoved out of the way or trampled by the mob. And then there's Liz Truss, who *believes* every scam, fraud, and grift they feed her and earnestly regurgitates them without understanding what it's really about (she's the comic relief on the lecture circuit).

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                                      @cstross @militant_dilettante If Liz wanted to remedy her public image, she could (pay whatever gatekeeping fee they charge and) join Reform, and then attend a public event with a Comic Relief nose-pincher.

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                                      • fgbjr@indieweb.socialF fgbjr@indieweb.social

                                        @cstross @militant_dilettante If Liz wanted to remedy her public image, she could (pay whatever gatekeeping fee they charge and) join Reform, and then attend a public event with a Comic Relief nose-pincher.

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                                        @fgbjr @cstross Would the Reform take her, though? Taking into account that her campaign slogans/punchlines would be something along the lines of "I WILL CUT YOU, SALAD!!"

                                        I might be using an incorrect grocery term for a leafy vegetable, a refrigerated specimen of which had outlasted Truss in her shooting-star-like career as a Prime Minister of the UK. English is obviously not my first language.

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                                        • fgbjr@indieweb.socialF fgbjr@indieweb.social

                                          @cstross @militant_dilettante If Liz wanted to remedy her public image, she could (pay whatever gatekeeping fee they charge and) join Reform, and then attend a public event with a Comic Relief nose-pincher.

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                                          @fgbjr @militant_dilettante Or she could flee to Dubai or Argentina and publish a tell-all autobiography explaining how she was recruited by the KGB in the upper fifth at Roundhay Grammar School in Leeds and groomed to destabilize the UK by her controller, one V. Putin. At which point … she wouldn't be *popular*, exactly, but her reputation for ineptitude and stupidity would instantly flip upside-down.

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