People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown.
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It's not, of course, generative AI that's deceiving people. It's the humans using AI to generate fake images and the humans who pass the fake images off as their own photos who are deceiving other humans.
@CiaraNi "it's the human who shoots the gun"
As for right now (and forever and ever, by the very nature of it) the main purpose of AIgen is to make things quick without effort. The only constant and without a sliver of doubt purpose is what things it does, which is generate very accurate images of something that doesn't exist, without effort. Making images for something that doesn't exist in a quick and easy way is, quite literally, the wet dream of scammers. -
@CiaraNi "it's the human who shoots the gun"
As for right now (and forever and ever, by the very nature of it) the main purpose of AIgen is to make things quick without effort. The only constant and without a sliver of doubt purpose is what things it does, which is generate very accurate images of something that doesn't exist, without effort. Making images for something that doesn't exist in a quick and easy way is, quite literally, the wet dream of scammers.@CiaraNi If the machine was a thing that reads your dreams, or the images you make on your head, and puts them on a screen, this would be a very different story.
But nope, this machine isn't about "looking at what is in your brain and taking it out into the real world" just like a gun isn't a "defensive tool". You can only ask to get a thing, a random,fake thing. You can only shoot people. You don't even have to imagine something, it's a tool doing it's wonky, useless to anything but harm, work. -
@FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi The bird's head is convex when seen from the outside.
But what's in that image still doesn't match anything from the fluid mechanics I learned in school.
@kreatorfangirls @CiaraNi
Correct! My native language is not english and i confuse terms well the thing is, we should properly link and source images so these doubty things wether ai or not would be clearer -
People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.
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People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.
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@weirdmustard @CiaraNi it's certainly making me question every image I see of a species new to me. Not only birds.
@capnthommo @weirdmustard Such a depressing situation we find ourselves in
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@FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp
I was also doubting whether it's real or AI (it has to be a quite big droplet for such a solid crown - or maybe it were two?).
I can't confirm the image, but I trust the poster.So, if this is any good, then it - again - shows how important trust is.
@stekopf Agreed - it really does show how important trust is. I would be so happy to learn that I am wrong, that this is not a manipulated fake image, that this lovely moment on earth happened and was captured in less than a second by a talented human with a camera. So far, though, everything points to a fake and nobody can verify the image or source.
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People keep sharing an image of a bird with a drop of water bursting on its head like a crown. It's AI, but people share it in good faith, believing it’s an amazing photo by a human of a real bird in a real moment of time. Meanwhile, humans who have taken amazing photos of real birds captured in real moments of time, like a hummingbird in ballet with a butterfly, get questioned in good faith by people who are tired of being cheated by AI-deceit. The way AI has broken social trust is distressing.
@CiaraNi It's the other way around. AI is one of the results of a broken social trust.
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@CiaraNi And now today, i've learned a new scammy way to put genai that seems reliable, which is, putting fake names on the post so it seems valid.
We need to start asking for link sources for this kind of photos and art!
"We need to start asking for link sources for this kind of photos and art"
I've unthinkingly developed the habit of looking for signs of human involvement in, for example, Alt Texts and available background information. An unnaturally perfect image with a Would Win Awards composition and style? I'll trust it if the tooter's other photos have a similar style or quality and if the Alt Text says something like 'our last Summer in Paris', and not just 'Sunset'.
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@CiaraNi Amazingly well stated and exemplified!
@Remittancegirl You are kind - thank you!
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@capnthommo @CiaraNi Cant count the times I've silently accused ppl of posting AI pics of especially beautiful and colorful insects before looking at some other observations and finding that yea, sometimes that species is really that vividly colorful. Doesn't help that photo editors now use "AI" to enhance details either.
'Doesn't help that photo editors now use "AI" to enhance details either.'
Good point. That adds another layer of difficulty these days when knowing what to trust.
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@stekopf @CiaraNi @VerenaRupp Yeah, its normal if you see an image online and post it bc you think its real. Just like when they gave you a fake bill (or banknote?)
But to leave doubts it would be a good practice to leave sources with links to verify it. It benefits everyone if we are now more careful linking and sourcing images and content.
@FrutigerAero00 @stekopf @VerenaRupp
'It would be a good practice to leave sources with links to verify it. It benefits everyone if we are now more careful linking and sourcing images and content'
Agreed
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This makes me wonder: to which extent is the Macaulay Library (Cornell Lab of Ornithology) curated enough so these photos are all real-world moments of real-world avians? I ask this because, as of recently, I've been using it as a image search engine for pictures of Strigidae (true owls) especially for drawing purposes (art based on real aspects of real species).
Many of the amazing photos I've been finding there contains EXIF data disclosing hardware (camera) and geographical (location) info, which (especially camera and sensors info) is some evidence that these are real photos and not AI-generated pictures...
...but I'm also aware that metadata can be counterfeited, seemingly non-captive scenes (a feeling of wrath emerges inside me every time I see photos of owls in captivity and/or chained/bound because they're meant to be free) can be staged, our senses can be deceived... Welp, a constant Cartesian conundrum that just ends up pushing me more into Luciferian-Gnosticism because, in the end of the day, nothing truly exists in this damn cosmic existence.@dsilverz Yikes, that would be a whole other layer of deception - falsifying EXIF data. I would normally trust that, but I suppose if the stakes are high enough, somebody is bound to try that.
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@CiaraNi @RalphBassfeld “Unnecessarily wordy” - shit, I think In Search of Lost Time may be AI slop too!
@arratoon @RalphBassfeld 17 A4-pages worth of an email sent to customer service with irrelevant AI-generated questions about some basic service is most definitely not Proust
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@FrutigerAero00 @CiaraNi The bird's head is convex when seen from the outside.
But what's in that image still doesn't match anything from the fluid mechanics I learned in school.
@kreatorfangirls @FrutigerAero00 Yes, the consensus does seem to be this. That the drop of water would only fall and disperse in that shape if it fell on flat surface of more water.
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@CiaraNi That's shite.
@oisin Shite is the right word for it. Absolutely agreed.
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@Amorpheus @jwcph Agreed. That's true. The use of text further manipulates us
@CiaraNi @Amorpheus indeed - the deliberate deceit is what cements the harmful effect; the most insane things are possible, if unlikely & it's taking away our capacity for wonder. Remember this pic? That's real, however fake it looks & it's flippin amazing - we should enjoy those things, not immediately assume they're part of somebody's malice.
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@CiaraNi I'm not sure it's AI. It looks more like a poorly done composite to me. I would guess AI would do a better job, maybe? Totally agree with you on what AI has done to trust.
@elaterite It may well be manipulated, rather than generated from scratch. Someone in the thread says it's faked out of two separate photos. Either way, it appears to be fake. No verified original real photo source seems to be available. And either way, I am depressed at what all this has has done to trust, as you say. Especially the way it creates mistrust towards human photographers who share some fab photo and get asked 'is that AI?'
all the way down, which is why 
it *so much*.
