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’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech.

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  • arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafeA arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

    @CiaraNi #danmarkskifter is a fantastic idea, but isn't it contradictory that their website, directly or indirectly, has trackers? Two (2) found by Privacy Badger and Ublock Origin.

    Tracking is bad. If they want us to leave big tech, a natural first step would be sanitizing their own website. If they don't it's a bit like claiming to be vegetarian and eating fish, or claiming to care for the environment while smoking.

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    @arosano @CiaraNi Hey there. The only tracker being employed is https://usefathom.com/. What would you prefer in terms of web analytics?

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    • benjaminlj@virup.socialB benjaminlj@virup.social

      @jakobtougaard @CiaraNi

      @jeppe har lavet Friendica.dk, og det ser ud til at gå rigtig godt med det. Der er åbent for tilmeldinger hvis du har lyst til at prøve det af.

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      @benjaminlj @CiaraNi @jeppe tak, det vil jeg prøve!

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      • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

        ’Denmark Switches.’ A national campaign to collectively move off Big Tech. March 20th is Big Switch Day. I’ve named my goal now. I’m already almost deMicrosofted, except for my photo archive. I moved to Libre & Tuta mail and have been purging photos as I await the release of Tuta drive. Now I’m committing myself to just get the photos off OneDrive and on to my computer, that I own, in my house, by March 20th. Then I’ll delete Microsoft. Then I’ll boast about it on the Fediverse.

        #DanmarkSkifter

        593@mastodon.social5 This user is from outside of this forum
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        @CiaraNi I did exactly this not long ago, I had already migrated to proton mail and all my photos are stored in a repurposed dell PC turned into a server, 6 TB of storage is more than enough for a family of 3, the only thing i need to do is delete my Microsoft account, once i have updated my online accounts to my proton email address is bye bye MSfT , my google account has a fake name so i dont care about that one, no contacts on google, no photos on google photos. All in my private server now.

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        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

          ”42% of Danes want to try alternatives to Big Tech. 68% would like to reduce their screen time. But far fewer act on it.

          Habits hold us back. Network effects bind us to the same platforms as everyone else. This only changes if we shift collectively. When we shift together, new habits become easier to maintain.

          When enough of us shift simultaneously, alternative platforms gain the critical mass they need. When we act collectively, change is possible.”

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          About Danmark Skifter

          42% of Danes want to try new alternatives to Big Tech. 68% would like to reduce their screen time. But far fewer act on it. Together, we can change that. What is Danmark Skifter? Danmark Skifter is a national campaign where thousands of Danes take back control of their digital

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          #DanmarkSkifter

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          @CiaraNi Cool! Here in Germany a similar campaign started recently. Focusing on every first Sunday and suggestions framed as recipes. https://di.day/category/rezepte/ (in german, but foran impression). It would be interesting to compare the developments.

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          • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

            @lari @sebastian @Flatus Thank you for the recommendation. That sounds worth a look.

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            @CiaraNi @lari @Flatus

            thanks from me too.
            I did not know that Hetzners Storage Share in fact = Nextcloud.
            EUR 4.29 for 1 TB is fair enough.
            I would consider that.

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            • joshbuddy@sfba.socialJ joshbuddy@sfba.social

              @arosano @CiaraNi Hey there. The only tracker being employed is https://usefathom.com/. What would you prefer in terms of web analytics?

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              @joshbuddy @CiaraNi usefathom was not mentioned by Privacy Badger.

              I don't prefer any analytics. Let them work with focus groups while in development, and when in production.

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              • arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafeA arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                @joshbuddy @CiaraNi usefathom was not mentioned by Privacy Badger.

                I don't prefer any analytics. Let them work with focus groups while in development, and when in production.

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                @arosano @CiaraNi Hey there. I've removed use for jsdelivr. As for fathom, when I open privacy badger, this is what I get.

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                  @Su_G Agreed. It's encouraging to see that even carefully paced, separate little steps are definitely leading somewhere. We're getting there, all of us, all in this together!

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                    @Su_G The move away from Big Tech has clarified for me that I also want Less Tech. Non-complicated solutions. Sticking a big fat USB stick (as I think of it) into my PC via a cable and it just works instantly, no internet required, and it only takes less than a literal second to copy files on to it: I may never put anything on any cloud again!

                    @Pepijn

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                    • interacter@im-in.spaceI interacter@im-in.space

                      @CiaraNi do you have a link? I've had a quick search and nothing is coming up about this...

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                      @interacter Most of the material and stories so far about the campaign are in Danish, but here's a link to their site's English-language page.

                      Ciara (@CiaraNi@mastodon.green)

                      ”42% of Danes want to try alternatives to Big Tech. 68% would like to reduce their screen time. But far fewer act on it. Habits hold us back. Network effects bind us to the same platforms as everyone else. This only changes if we shift collectively. When we shift together, new habits become easier to maintain. When enough of us shift simultaneously, alternative platforms gain the critical mass they need. When we act collectively, change is possible.” https://danmarkskifter.dk/en/ #DanmarkSkifter

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                      • iveyline@mastodon.socialI iveyline@mastodon.social

                        @CiaraNi Great move!

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                        @Iveyline It's a great campaign. I was sort-of making moves, but this strengthened my resolve to take the final steps to (first target) fully get off the last bits off Microsoft.

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                        • johnlorimer@mastodon.socialJ johnlorimer@mastodon.social

                          @CiaraNi lol, we are all heading that way.

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                          @johnlorimer Agreed. I think we are. It feels like there's momentum now. Including in Denmark, where the threats to Greenland have made opposition to US dominance and behaviour a casual topic of of normal everyday conversation.

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                          • ar1@mastodon.socialA ar1@mastodon.social

                            @CiaraNi Very good move. Just last week I found a completely unused #Microsoft One app on my computer and deleted it. For those still on #Windows, there's a nifty tool I have seen on social media a week ago to** remove all the intrusive eeew yuck of AI from the computer** (usual warning about running scripts from the internet unchecked apply) https://github.com/zoicware/RemoveWindowsAI I am not affiliated or otherwise in contact with the developer, other than bowing in awe

                            #removeAI #removeWindowsAI #dumpmicrosoft

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                            @ar1 It's bananas that we have all been put in this defensive position, battling an onslaught of unwanted features and data grabs. But excellent that some developers are taking up the battle to resist it.

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                            • arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafeA arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                              @CiaraNi #danmarkskifter is a fantastic idea, but isn't it contradictory that their website, directly or indirectly, has trackers? Two (2) found by Privacy Badger and Ublock Origin.

                              Tracking is bad. If they want us to leave big tech, a natural first step would be sanitizing their own website. If they don't it's a bit like claiming to be vegetarian and eating fish, or claiming to care for the environment while smoking.

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                              ciarani@mastodon.green
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                              @arosano I think I'm the wrong person to ask. I don't know anything about their website set-up. And I'm wary of purity tests, especially when people are trying to start a community movement.

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                              • rakoo@blah.rako.spaceR rakoo@blah.rako.space
                                @CiaraNi @sebastian @Flatus

                                I use Les Pas on Android to automatically sync, it's smarter than a naive send because it knows what is remote and when I delete a photo it asks me if I want to delete on the phone, on the server of both. It also allows me to do albums by actual folders and not some proprietary thing again, and albums can be shared with nextcloud so others can see and maybe even add photos, etc
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                                @rakoo Thanks for sharing this. Much appreciated.

                                '@sebastian @Flatus

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                                • antoniovr@mastodon.socialA antoniovr@mastodon.social

                                  @Su_G @CiaraNi @Pepijn in some degoogle thread in Spanish someone recently suggested this tysk/finsk server based cloud.1 Tb costs less than 4 €/month & it can even be shared. I use syncthing to sync different folders between mobile, laptop, personal and work computers. Unison for manual sync among pcs and rsync (ssh based) for backing up staff. If/when i try this storage I can describe it as ex.in case someone finds it useful to remove google one or Ms subscriptions...

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                                  @antoniovr That sounds useful and affordable. Thanks for this information - much appreciated.

                                  @Su_G @Pepijn

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                                  • 593@mastodon.social5 593@mastodon.social

                                    @CiaraNi I did exactly this not long ago, I had already migrated to proton mail and all my photos are stored in a repurposed dell PC turned into a server, 6 TB of storage is more than enough for a family of 3, the only thing i need to do is delete my Microsoft account, once i have updated my online accounts to my proton email address is bye bye MSfT , my google account has a fake name so i dont care about that one, no contacts on google, no photos on google photos. All in my private server now.

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                                    @593 Snap - this sounds so similar to my steps off Big Tech. I never used Google actively either, just there as Forced Google features on my Android phone and I turned off everything I could find already. So that will be a simpler disconnect after I've taken the last few steps off Microsoft. We're getting there, all of us!.

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                                    • borisentiu@mastodon.socialB borisentiu@mastodon.social

                                      @CiaraNi Cool! Here in Germany a similar campaign started recently. Focusing on every first Sunday and suggestions framed as recipes. https://di.day/category/rezepte/ (in german, but foran impression). It would be interesting to compare the developments.

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                                      @borisentiu That's a great campaign. A similar community-based feel about it. Yes, it will be nice to see the developments in both countries from both campaigns.

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                                      • arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafeA arosano@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                        @joshbuddy @CiaraNi usefathom was not mentioned by Privacy Badger.

                                        I don't prefer any analytics. Let them work with focus groups while in development, and when in production.

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                                        @arosano "Let them work with focus groups while in development, and when in production"

                                        It's not a Broligarch start-up. It's a community-based movement that is driven, as far as I know, a lot by volunteer efforts. They are trying to create a momentum to make people aware of the problems with Big Tech and to help them move off it in manageable steps. They are creating community energy. I don't feel a need to drain that energy by nitpicking at them.

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                                        • ciarani@mastodon.greenC ciarani@mastodon.green

                                          @locadeserta Ah this is familiar! Once I got my lovely shiny new SDD, I was startled to discover how sloooowly the process of downloading my images was. It's taking me weeks, bit by bit, to get through the still ongoing process. But it's good because it's made me make better choices about what files to keep.

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                                          @CiaraNi @locadeserta Watch out for bit rot though, spinning disks are better for long term storage than SSDs.

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