Reminder: de-skilling as a trend in software engineering was already in progress well before LLMs.
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Reminder: de-skilling as a trend in software engineering was already in progress well before LLMs.
Toxic productivity culture, people meeting badly-designed internal reward metrics, hopping jobs and never seeing the consequences of bad choices, plummeting quality, short-termism.
Sure LLMs add fuel to this fire, but I’m not at all convinced they’re causal.
If anything, their popularity seems more a consequence of the culture than cause.
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Reminder: de-skilling as a trend in software engineering was already in progress well before LLMs.
Toxic productivity culture, people meeting badly-designed internal reward metrics, hopping jobs and never seeing the consequences of bad choices, plummeting quality, short-termism.
Sure LLMs add fuel to this fire, but I’m not at all convinced they’re causal.
If anything, their popularity seems more a consequence of the culture than cause.
@elizayer outsourcing all technical competence to external agencies really took its toll as well. Still does, I suppose.
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@elizayer outsourcing all technical competence to external agencies really took its toll as well. Still does, I suppose.
@hyc oh yes, very much so.
It's almost a wonder that expertise and care ever *does* develop!
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Reminder: de-skilling as a trend in software engineering was already in progress well before LLMs.
Toxic productivity culture, people meeting badly-designed internal reward metrics, hopping jobs and never seeing the consequences of bad choices, plummeting quality, short-termism.
Sure LLMs add fuel to this fire, but I’m not at all convinced they’re causal.
If anything, their popularity seems more a consequence of the culture than cause.
@elizayer Oh gosh, yes, absolutely agreed. The industry’s long chased automated, repeatable solutions and frameworks — LLMs are just the latest salvo.
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Reminder: de-skilling as a trend in software engineering was already in progress well before LLMs.
Toxic productivity culture, people meeting badly-designed internal reward metrics, hopping jobs and never seeing the consequences of bad choices, plummeting quality, short-termism.
Sure LLMs add fuel to this fire, but I’m not at all convinced they’re causal.
If anything, their popularity seems more a consequence of the culture than cause.
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Reminder: de-skilling as a trend in software engineering was already in progress well before LLMs.
Toxic productivity culture, people meeting badly-designed internal reward metrics, hopping jobs and never seeing the consequences of bad choices, plummeting quality, short-termism.
Sure LLMs add fuel to this fire, but I’m not at all convinced they’re causal.
If anything, their popularity seems more a consequence of the culture than cause.
@elizayer custom-designed by and for dudes who can’t be wrong but ain’t never been right.
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Reminder: de-skilling as a trend in software engineering was already in progress well before LLMs.
Toxic productivity culture, people meeting badly-designed internal reward metrics, hopping jobs and never seeing the consequences of bad choices, plummeting quality, short-termism.
Sure LLMs add fuel to this fire, but I’m not at all convinced they’re causal.
If anything, their popularity seems more a consequence of the culture than cause.
I've seen this pattern enough to look for it.
But yeah this one I lived thru so I have first hand
experience of being a younger programmer where
the programmer's perspective was taken into
account. And more and more programmers
are made to do what they are told in spite of strongly
disagreeing with the tech or methodology
or concept etc.
By the time I'm a "senior" developer I effectively
have less input into projects than i did as an
entry level programmer.
What happens in that situation in any field is
it makes good people go away over time.
So now you "need" LLMs because no one is
left that knows how to build a project from
scratch. (hypebole but still true i think)
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Reminder: de-skilling as a trend in software engineering was already in progress well before LLMs.
Toxic productivity culture, people meeting badly-designed internal reward metrics, hopping jobs and never seeing the consequences of bad choices, plummeting quality, short-termism.
Sure LLMs add fuel to this fire, but I’m not at all convinced they’re causal.
If anything, their popularity seems more a consequence of the culture than cause.
@elizayer I agree, but I'm not sure that changes what we should do about it. Sometimes the highest leverage regulation point is the tool, not the behavior - e.g. guns or narcotics. Yes, we should also work to eliminate the reasons people turn to those things, but that's not mutually exclusive with short term solutions.
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Reminder: de-skilling as a trend in software engineering was already in progress well before LLMs.
Toxic productivity culture, people meeting badly-designed internal reward metrics, hopping jobs and never seeing the consequences of bad choices, plummeting quality, short-termism.
Sure LLMs add fuel to this fire, but I’m not at all convinced they’re causal.
If anything, their popularity seems more a consequence of the culture than cause.
@elizayer in a way, it's nice to be able to spot the corner-cutters more easily now
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@hyc oh yes, very much so.
It's almost a wonder that expertise and care ever *does* develop!
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@elizayer Oh gosh, yes, absolutely agreed. The industry’s long chased automated, repeatable solutions and frameworks — LLMs are just the latest salvo.
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