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  • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

    Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

    We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

    max@toet.dnzm.nlM This user is from outside of this forum
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    max@toet.dnzm.nl
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    @adafruit so, the big deal is not the thing it does, but the fact that it's slop generated? That's what you're proud of?

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    • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

      Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

      We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

      bencotterill@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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      bencotterill@mastodon.social
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      @adafruit

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      • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

        Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

        We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

        bright5park@kind.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
        bright5park@kind.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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        #29

        @adafruit Maybe LLMs can generate you some customers, too.

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        • tretron@furry.engineerT tretron@furry.engineer

          @orangutanlibrarian @malachai @adafruit not really, managing the library and footprints is about 1/10 of thr work load of electrical design. Hardly ever you need to make your own footprint since most components use standard footprints. Realistically most vendors already offer kicad library files if not the footprint files. I would wager it takes me more work checking if the shitbox machine generated correct files then I am making my own files.

          gabrielesvelto@mas.toG This user is from outside of this forum
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          @tretron @orangutanlibrarian @malachai @adafruit and let's not forget that this technology currently burned through 840 billion $ of aggregated funding. With a microscopic fraction of that budget we could probably automate the issue away with a suitable and reliable tool. For that kind of money every problem you can think of has a better solution than an LLM.

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          • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

            Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

            We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

            float13@masto.hackers.townF This user is from outside of this forum
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            #31

            @adafruit

            But why?

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            • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

              Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

              We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

              kerrybenton@ioc.exchangeK This user is from outside of this forum
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              kerrybenton@ioc.exchange
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              @adafruit how tremendously disappointing. That’s a hard red line for me, I’m afraid. I hope you can change course, but I won’t knowingly support LLM’s in any way, shape or form.

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              • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

                We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

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                @adafruit rip adafruit

                Understanding of the customer base was apparently not part of the deal

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                • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                  Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

                  We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

                  mack505@feistycricket.orgM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @adafruit Note to self: do not buy Adafruit anymore

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                  • mavu@mastodon.socialM mavu@mastodon.social

                    @orangutanlibrarian @adafruit because genAI companies are anti-social parasites who only thrive by stealing everyone's creations without asking for permission or giving even a thought to compensation. From music to art, from books to shitposts. Everything stolen and the result sold for money.
                    They destroy lives of people from artists to engineers.
                    They eat energy and capital at an insane rate, and the crash will be a desaster.
                    Use genAI and accept all of the above as inevitable, or fight it.

                    metarecursive@mathstodon.xyzM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @mavu @orangutanlibrarian @adafruit That's our capitalist economy. None of this is new or specific to genAI companies. The stuff the exact same system does in african countries is even worse. It's important to recognize this to better navigate how to make the world better. Exploitation, disregard of ownership and rights, erosion of freedoms, propping up corrupt governments, leveraging the power advantage the system provides for ill; all that you listed are subset to this, and are a property of a deeper older misanthropic engine that in an ideal world would not exist.

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                    • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                      Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

                      We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

                      ahchay@mastodon.gamedev.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @adafruit Fuck, and i can't over empathise this enough, all the way off

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                      • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                        Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

                        We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

                        aapis@mastodon.worldA This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #37

                        @adafruit 🤢

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                          @neptune22222 @adafruit Have a peek at Oxide Computer, if you haven't already. For example,
                          https://rfd.shared.oxide.computer/rfd/0241

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                          • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                            Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

                            We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

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                            @adafruit

                            Eeee, talk about punching yourself in the face. #NoAI

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                            • scy@chaos.socialS scy@chaos.social

                              @adafruit So what you're saying is you had a software tool assist you in stealing from designs made by other people, which you're now selling for a profit. Got it.

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                              @scy @adafruit

                              I remember when people did not brag about stealing. Then the "only fools pay taxes" guy was elected President.

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                              • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                                Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

                                We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

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                                @adafruit
                                Thank you for the information. I will no longer use something from your stuff.

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                                • mrgm@mastodon.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @ptorrone @adafruit Fuck off, Phil. Your shitty tone is making the situation worse.

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                                  • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                                    Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

                                    We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

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                                    @adafruit If any employee is reading the replies?

                                    Delete your account, get the fuck out, and never come back.

                                    (No offense to you personally if you're just saying the LLM stuff on management's behalf for a paycheck, but basically no one here wants to see it.)

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                                    • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                                      Here's Our First Gemini Deep Think LLM-Assisted Hardware Design

                                      We've been using LLMs for software and firmware for years... now we're trying hardware. Threw a MAX44009 datasheet at Gemini Deep Think, asked for an EagleCAD library file, and about 10 minutes later it popped out working XML. Loaded it in Eagle, checked the pins and dimensions, rolled with it.

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                                      @adafruit ew gross. ai;dr
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