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Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

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  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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    Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
    Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

    https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
    archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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    dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD jmax@mastodon.socialJ carepackage17@mastodon.gamedev.placeC spzb@infosec.exchangeS kevin@mastodon.km6g.usK 14 Replies Last reply
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    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

      Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
      Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

      https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
      archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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      dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @davidgerard if only there were some way to foresee this

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      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

        Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
        Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

        https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
        archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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        @davidgerard https://youtu.be/2TnkJ8_BmSI

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        • dysfun@social.treehouse.systemsD dysfun@social.treehouse.systems

          @davidgerard if only there were some way to foresee this

          davidgerard@circumstances.runD This user is from outside of this forum
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          @dysfun Clod Cod has BETRAYED me

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          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

            Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
            Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

            https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
            archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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            @davidgerard they should just ask the chatbot to fix this, I'm sure it'll go well

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            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

              @dysfun Clod Cod has BETRAYED me

              rogerbw@discordian.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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              @davidgerard @dysfun See, even more evidence that it's as smart as a human, though we are not going to go the next step towards paying it like a human because for those few of us who believed this would actually work slaves were the whole point.

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              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                spzb@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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                @davidgerard “novel GenAI usage for which best practices and safeguards are not yet fully established”

                How difficult is it to say “no, don’t do that”?

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                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                  Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                  Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                  https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                  archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                  @davidgerard

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                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                    Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                    Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                    https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                    archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                    @davidgerard I don't understand? I fired all of the engineers and replaced them with meat-shaped accountability sinks.

                    Why is everything breaking? Did I not do it enough?

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                    • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                      Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                      Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                      https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                      archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                      @davidgerard ‘assisted’ is doing some heavy lifting here.

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                      • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                        Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                        Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                        https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                        archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                        @davidgerard

                        this is a subscription ad, not news.

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                        • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                          Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                          Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                          https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                          archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                          @davidgerard the labor-destroying slop machine cannot fail, it can only be failed imperfect humans

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                          • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                            Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                            Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                            https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                            archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                            @davidgerard "could it... could it be the garbage generation machine's fault? No, it can't be, we had humans monitoring it's output! It must be the humans, fire all the humans!"

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                            • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                              Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                              Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                              https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                              archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                              @davidgerard shockedpikachu.gif

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                              • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                                Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                                https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                                archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                                jer@chirp.enworld.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @davidgerard "Junior and mid-level engineers will now require more senior engineers to sign off any AI-assisted changes, "

                                Um wut? Does Amazon normally shove code out without code review or something? Even if its not ai-generated there should be a review process!

                                Oh well. It's not like a giant chunk of the internet is dependent on Amazon code quality!

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                                • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                  Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                                  Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                                  https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                                  archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                                  @davidgerard I’m sure putting the extra burden of more work and accountability on senior engineers will have no negative consequences.

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                                  • davidgerard@circumstances.runD davidgerard@circumstances.run

                                    Amazon holds engineering meeting following AI-related outages:
                                    Ecommerce giant says there has been a ‘trend of incidents’ linked to ‘Gen-AI assisted changes’

                                    https://www.ft.com/content/7cab4ec7-4712-4137-b602-119a44f771de
                                    archive: https://archive.is/wXvF3

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                                    @davidgerard This is very bad for my ego I should NOT have my wild theories proven correct

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                                    • jer@chirp.enworld.orgJ jer@chirp.enworld.org

                                      @davidgerard "Junior and mid-level engineers will now require more senior engineers to sign off any AI-assisted changes, "

                                      Um wut? Does Amazon normally shove code out without code review or something? Even if its not ai-generated there should be a review process!

                                      Oh well. It's not like a giant chunk of the internet is dependent on Amazon code quality!

                                      adrake@sfba.socialA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @Jer @davidgerard I don't know Amazon's practices specifically, but at most places I'm aware of, the baseline requirement is for review by any colleague who's familiar with the area being modified. Larger-scale changes or changes to sensitive areas will sometimes require review from some designated owner, who is probably (but not necessarily) more senior, and that would apply to anyone at any level. Unusual to require that on a really large class of changes purely based on seniority!

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