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  • hellomiakoda@pdx.socialH hellomiakoda@pdx.social

    @TechConnectify I think I'll adopt your notification philosphy for my #HomeAssistant when I set it back up in my new home

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    @hellomiakoda @TechConnectify btw, if you're sending notifications from #HomeAssistant to an Android phone, you can also specify a 'channel' field which then allows you on your phone to give different sounds/vibrations for each channel you specify.
    So I have a channel called 'loud' and then any notification being sent with that channel will make a very noticeable sound that's different from normal notifications.
    https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-create-a-custom-notification-channel/740493/4
    it's not really documented well for some reason though.

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      #27

      @TechConnectify "And when we design things well, we can make them useful for all." is such a great quote 🙂

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        @TechConnectify Phew! I was worried the goons had paid you a visit. Glad to see you’re still here

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          @TechConnectify@mas.to In the comments, I see people who want you saying "bingbong" as an alert. So, I hope these small excerpts count as fair use: https://nextcloud.stephsoft.eu/s/NboLbJpnpt8cYS5

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          • techconnectify@mas.toT techconnectify@mas.to

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            @TechConnectify Well that was a delightful and rambling rant.

            FWIW...literally the ONLY thing better about the trains around Toronto than the trains here in the Netherlands is the closing door chime. The Dutch NS single beep is so boring.

            I was so glad (legitimately, and not sarcastically like most of my neighbours) when Waterloo region adopted it for their trains and I got to listen to it all day long at my previous house.

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              @TechConnectify In my experience working in the field, Tech Bros have nothing but utter contempt for anything that is not "one size fits all".

              It explains every Bad UX trend from the past 20 years. Touchscreen UIs everywhere. Web design applied to desktop apps. Chatbots replacing every form of communication. "Smart" watches more concerned with fancy screens than having a battery that lasts more than 48 hours.

              IDK how to fix this. Good UX just doesn't attract capital or executive attention.

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                @TechConnectify In my experience working in the field, Tech Bros have nothing but utter contempt for anything that is not "one size fits all".

                It explains every Bad UX trend from the past 20 years. Touchscreen UIs everywhere. Web design applied to desktop apps. Chatbots replacing every form of communication. "Smart" watches more concerned with fancy screens than having a battery that lasts more than 48 hours.

                IDK how to fix this. Good UX just doesn't attract capital or executive attention.

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                @TechConnectify Part of this is the problem that software just kind of sucks and we haven't figured out a way to build a lot of it without making it brittle (and AI is making it worse).

                But even that aside, culturally, no-one who matters gives a shit. Executives want a flashy equity story. So PMs are ordered to deliver some LLM-based bullshit.

                Good UX, as you pointed out, is invisible. And that kind of work doesn't drive capital investment for tech firms. So the enshittification continues.

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                • techconnectify@mas.toT techconnectify@mas.to

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                  @TechConnectify if anyone has written something already, I'd love to see what categories of notifications people have configured for their phones. I think it would be easier to switch to a system like this if I could modify someone else's template instead of trying to come up with something from scratch.

                  I'd also be happy to see a library of unobtrusive notification sounds, but that might be harder to share due to copyrights.

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                    @TechConnectify All I want is the ding-dong noises that old Garmin GPS units used to make. I can’t stand hearing my phone babble needlessly verbose word salad at me while I’m driving, so I keep it muted. But I’m always missing turns and exits as a result.

                    Just a brief, pleasant sound to let me know I need to do *something* would make a world of difference. I don’t understand why I can’t have this.

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                      @TechConnectify This does resonate (pun intended) a lot with me. The human-centered design process isn't a structural safeguard against isolation of underrepresented users, unfortunately, making everyone worse off (especially here!). I'm not sure on what we could do on a larger scale to approach this though, beyond awareness

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                      • multisn8@mastodon.catgirl.cloudM multisn8@mastodon.catgirl.cloud

                        @TechConnectify This does resonate (pun intended) a lot with me. The human-centered design process isn't a structural safeguard against isolation of underrepresented users, unfortunately, making everyone worse off (especially here!). I'm not sure on what we could do on a larger scale to approach this though, beyond awareness

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                        @TechConnectify Despite it being, understandably, very ranty, I'm very thankful for you showing your desires and frustration at the status quo

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                          @TechConnectify ooo

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                            @TechConnectify New Video? Sounds like a pipe-dream.

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                              @TechConnectify New Video? Sounds like a pipe-dream.

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                              @adlerweb @TechConnectify sound the alarms! 😄

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                                @TechConnectify

                                Great rant on #usability and #ux

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                                  @hellomiakoda @TechConnectify btw, if you're sending notifications from #HomeAssistant to an Android phone, you can also specify a 'channel' field which then allows you on your phone to give different sounds/vibrations for each channel you specify.
                                  So I have a channel called 'loud' and then any notification being sent with that channel will make a very noticeable sound that's different from normal notifications.
                                  https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-create-a-custom-notification-channel/740493/4
                                  it's not really documented well for some reason though.

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                                  @thibaultmol @TechConnectify I'm on Linux Phone, and unfortunately, there's no Home Assistant app for Linux Mobile for some reason. I get those notifications via Gotify. Though, I suppose, since it's just done with curl, I could easily make some more keys to separate them. Though, setting different sounds on Linux Mobile is VERY limited and half broken. Lost of stuff just doesn't make any sound when it should, and none of them let me use different sounds for different things.

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                                    @thibaultmol @TechConnectify I'm on Linux Phone, and unfortunately, there's no Home Assistant app for Linux Mobile for some reason. I get those notifications via Gotify. Though, I suppose, since it's just done with curl, I could easily make some more keys to separate them. Though, setting different sounds on Linux Mobile is VERY limited and half broken. Lost of stuff just doesn't make any sound when it should, and none of them let me use different sounds for different things.

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                                    @thibaultmol @TechConnectify But, at least at home where notifs are sounds, instead of speaking, I could have a lot of them just be unobtrusice tones. Maybe... I have to think what that will and won't work with for me. Exampe - I NEED the reminder to clean the HVAC filter to speak and be irritating, or it'll never get done.

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                                      @hellomiakoda @TechConnectify btw, if you're sending notifications from #HomeAssistant to an Android phone, you can also specify a 'channel' field which then allows you on your phone to give different sounds/vibrations for each channel you specify.
                                      So I have a channel called 'loud' and then any notification being sent with that channel will make a very noticeable sound that's different from normal notifications.
                                      https://community.home-assistant.io/t/how-to-create-a-custom-notification-channel/740493/4
                                      it's not really documented well for some reason though.

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                                      @thibaultmol @hellomiakoda @TechConnectify this was an excellent tip. Thank you.

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                                        @TechConnectify And now I am planning to get a Pebble watch...

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                                          @TechConnectify

                                          Really fun video. It's very interesting hearing all the ways we could use audio to make things better. I have been wanting to make my own ringtones for my phone, so it's good to keep in mind not being obtrusive. I may have to make a whole suite of notification sounds for my phone, so I can tell what app is trying to notify me.

                                          The pebble watch seems interesting too when it comes to smart watches.

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