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  • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

    @adafruit Using fake feminism and a bunch of invalid comparisons to defend a technology that men are more likely to use than women ( https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.06556 ) and which use consolidates all power and money into the hands of a few billionares (all men).

    No. No collaboration with LLMs, no credibility for LLM defenders, no fascist AI future. And no more Adafruit orders from me

    discatte@digipres.clubD This user is from outside of this forum
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    #21

    @mcc not to mention they harassed several people and revealed private personal info (mine) recently. all in "defense" of anyone critical of their ai usage.

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    • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

      No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

      In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

      Just a moment...

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      lucky@mastodon.nzL This user is from outside of this forum
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      #22

      @adafruit You already have plenty of women in your replies telling you this is ridiculous and shameful but I'd like to add one more.

      Pretending our anti-AI convictions are sexist is insulting.

      Pretending AI is as useful as my vacuum cleaner is laughable.

      Pretending we need this technology is embarrassing.

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      • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

        No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

        In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

        Just a moment...

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        #23

        @adafruit hi ptorrone! are you tired of ban-evading and harassing people yet?

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        • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

          No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

          In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

          Just a moment...

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          (blog.adafruit.com)

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          #24

          @adafruit 🤡

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          • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

            No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

            In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

            Just a moment...

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            (blog.adafruit.com)

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            @adafruit@fosstodon.org Have you lost your fucking minds?

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              #26

              @magic_smoke @adafruit

              Look for recertified or reconditioned drives 🙂

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              • renedudfield@fosstodon.orgR renedudfield@fosstodon.org

                @adafruit hard agree. Thanks for writing this up. Same ethics “experts” seem awfully keen to take away these tools from the disabled, and the economically disadvantaged too.

                Whilst these tools exist, why not take the fight to the rich and powerful doing the actual bad stuff? It’s a lot harder than writing hateful internet messages to people just trying to get by.

                As usual, women are taking the brunt of new technology job losses. Translators, educators, customer support. Deny tools = deny work.

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                #27

                @renedudfield @adafruit Ah yes, all of those economically disadvantaged people spending $200 a month to generate anime girls with three breasts. "You wouldn't take away someone's wheelchair, would you?"

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                • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                  No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                  In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                  Just a moment...

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                  (blog.adafruit.com)

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                  #28

                  @adafruit Like RaspberryPi, Adafruit is leaving my favorites list for shopping sites.

                  Holy hell did this miss the mark. Millions of women's works are slurped up by AI everyday and regurgitated at will by an unthinking LLM engine. Recast as a "thinking machine's result" with no renumeration to female artists, authors, and creators. This couldn't be a more masculine way to rob women of their life's work and agency. Even if given for free or under Creative Commons, stripping a project from it's authorhood when a woman made it should be appalling enough.

                  Please reconsider this position.

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                  • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                    No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                    In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                    Just a moment...

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                    (blog.adafruit.com)

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                    #29

                    @adafruit y'all don't seem to play the woman card when you're doxxing, harassing, and block-evading

                    anyway, good luck not blowing up boards

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                    • mcc@mastodon.socialM mcc@mastodon.social

                      @adafruit Using fake feminism and a bunch of invalid comparisons to defend a technology that men are more likely to use than women ( https://arxiv.org/pdf/2310.06556 ) and which use consolidates all power and money into the hands of a few billionares (all men).

                      No. No collaboration with LLMs, no credibility for LLM defenders, no fascist AI future. And no more Adafruit orders from me

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                      #30

                      @mcc @adafruit

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                      • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                        No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                        In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                        Just a moment...

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                        (blog.adafruit.com)

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                        @adafruit the hilarious assumption that a man could try to sell AI generated slop on the fediverse with no pushback 😂 as if we aren't bullying LLM bros on here daily

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                        • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                          No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                          In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                          Just a moment...

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                          @adafruit Do you and Mozilla use the same Denny's placemat PR firm?

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                          • renedudfield@fosstodon.orgR renedudfield@fosstodon.org

                            @adafruit hard agree. Thanks for writing this up. Same ethics “experts” seem awfully keen to take away these tools from the disabled, and the economically disadvantaged too.

                            Whilst these tools exist, why not take the fight to the rich and powerful doing the actual bad stuff? It’s a lot harder than writing hateful internet messages to people just trying to get by.

                            As usual, women are taking the brunt of new technology job losses. Translators, educators, customer support. Deny tools = deny work.

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                            @renedudfield @adafruit "As usual, women are taking the brunt of new technology job losses. Translators, educators, customer support." And this is a defense of the machine they're being replaced with... how? Women are facing more harm than men from the LLM hype cycle, so the solution is to keep it going???

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                            • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                              No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                              In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                              Just a moment...

                              favicon

                              (blog.adafruit.com)

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                              @adafruit

                              Not every tool is good
                              One of my heatguns was recalled for fire risk
                              I sent it in
                              It was a bad tool
                              LLMs, Gemini included, are also bad tools

                              If I had to double check my cake mix for poison every single time I used it I wouldn't use that cake mix
                              Or eat a cake made from it

                              You're failing to recognize WHY people are rejecting LLMs and things made with it

                              They're bad tools

                              If a robot vacuum cleaner does a good job but has a 1% chance of eating my cat it's not allowed in my house

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                              • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                                No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                                In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                                Just a moment...

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                                @adafruit amusingly though: @cstross blocked me a couple years ago, because he was (if I recall correctly, can't be arsed to dig up the toot but it's back there somewhere) either boosting or else posting AI slop images and laughing at how bad they were. I had been an avid follower, but I expressed my surprise that he, an author no less, would be playing with the plagiarism machine in public.

                                As much as I tend to agree with the mob that using this planet killer was a terrible idea that you should be ashamed about, rather than what you're doing right here, Stross seems like he's mostly concerned with building up some sort of "profile" on here, and does not like to have his hypocrisy pointed out.

                                I think there are going to be some incredible strides made in education with this tech, but not until these psychopaths are devoured by angry street mobs and we start using it judiciously and without murdering towns and communities.

                                People in America have brown tap water so you could avoid work of which you are perfectly capable. You didn't need the help. There's no justifying it. Brown tap water.

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                                • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                                  No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                                  In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                                  Just a moment...

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                                  @adafruit ratio

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                                  • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                                    No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                                    In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                                    Just a moment...

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                                    @adafruit worst fucking take bestie

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                                    • renedudfield@fosstodon.orgR renedudfield@fosstodon.org

                                      @adafruit hard agree. Thanks for writing this up. Same ethics “experts” seem awfully keen to take away these tools from the disabled, and the economically disadvantaged too.

                                      Whilst these tools exist, why not take the fight to the rich and powerful doing the actual bad stuff? It’s a lot harder than writing hateful internet messages to people just trying to get by.

                                      As usual, women are taking the brunt of new technology job losses. Translators, educators, customer support. Deny tools = deny work.

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                                      @renedudfield @adafruit All of the fields you list have faced these massive quantities of job losses specifically because of LLMs replacing humans. "AI" is overwhelmingly being used as a tool by the ownership class to skip human labor, not by workers to chase already endless and exploitative efficiency targets
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                                      • adafruit@fosstodon.orgA adafruit@fosstodon.org

                                        No Tools for You: A Century of Men Policing Women’s Tools

                                        In 1925 a doctor said vacuum cleaners will make women lazy. In 2026 mastodon dudes said the same thing (and worse) about a woman engineer using a tool to make a CAD part.

                                        Just a moment...

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                                        @adafruit@fosstodon.org as a woman I am offended that you'd compare the actual bullshit our foremothers faced under sexism to people pushing back against AI, a "service" that's buggy, harmful, ecologically damaging, and being used as a tool in class warfare to push people out of their jobs, something that disproportionately happens to women and minorities first.

                                        You should be ashamed of yourself.

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