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  3. It's not getting enough attention that the Trump administration has banned the sale of ALL WiFi routers made outside of the US.

It's not getting enough attention that the Trump administration has banned the sale of ALL WiFi routers made outside of the US.

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  • veroniqueb99@mastodon.socialV veroniqueb99@mastodon.social

    It's not getting enough attention that the Trump administration has banned the sale of ALL WiFi routers made outside of the US. It's one of the first steps required to control Americans' use of the Internet, to spy on what you're doing online, to suppress information they don't want you to see and to even turn off the Internet at their discretion.

    This is looking increasingly like a trap.

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    FCC imposes sweeping ban on foreign-made routers, affecting all new models

    Trump admin to decide which router makers get exemptions from FCC import ban.

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    Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

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    @VeroniqueB99
    One might run OpenBSD / FreeBSD / NetBSD and free himself. Or maybe use pfsense as a commercial product you can trust.

    #openbsd #freeb #netbsd #pfsense

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    • mudala@mastodon.socialM mudala@mastodon.social

      @VeroniqueB99
      One might run OpenBSD / FreeBSD / NetBSD and free himself. Or maybe use pfsense as a commercial product you can trust.

      #openbsd #freeb #netbsd #pfsense

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      #34

      @mudala @VeroniqueB99

      #freebsd is already accepting LLM slop ...

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      • as400@mastodon.bsd.cafeA as400@mastodon.bsd.cafe

        @mudala @VeroniqueB99

        #freebsd is already accepting LLM slop ...

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        @as400 @VeroniqueB99
        Naahhh...where did you read that? That would be a reason to switch to OpenBSD for sure. I mean...I'm floored right now §8-(

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        • brianallbee@mastodon.socialB brianallbee@mastodon.social

          @shwell @VeroniqueB99 agree.

          The instructions are out there (this is an older variant)

          Use Raspberry Pi 3 As Router : 10 Steps (with Pictures) - Instructables https://www.instructables.com/Use-Raspberry-Pi-3-As-Router/

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          #36

          @BrianAllbee @VeroniqueB99 Thanks very much. I note the US aren't touching WAP's for now which is my solution.

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          • as400@mastodon.bsd.cafeA as400@mastodon.bsd.cafe

            @mudala @VeroniqueB99

            #freebsd is already accepting LLM slop ...

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            @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 Last I knew, #FreeBSD adopted an official policy rejecting AI/LLM patch submissions. They announced that policy last year at the FreeBSD Developer Summit.

            Can you provide a git commit hash or a link to LLM slop in FreeBSD?

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            • lattera@bsd.networkL lattera@bsd.network

              @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 Last I knew, #FreeBSD adopted an official policy rejecting AI/LLM patch submissions. They announced that policy last year at the FreeBSD Developer Summit.

              Can you provide a git commit hash or a link to LLM slop in FreeBSD?

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              @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 there is no such policy. core is currently considering what our LLM policy should be, they did not announce it yet.

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              • as400@mastodon.bsd.cafeA as400@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                @mudala @VeroniqueB99

                #freebsd is already accepting LLM slop ...

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                @as400 @VeroniqueB99
                I read "Current Policy on AI-Generated Code in FreeBSD
                FreeBSD is not currently accepting AI-generated code. The project has expressed concerns regarding the quality and licensing implications of using code produced by AI tools."

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                • lw@mastodon.bsd.cafeL lw@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                  @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 there is no such policy. core is currently considering what our LLM policy should be, they did not announce it yet.

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                  @lw @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 I remember seeing #FreeBSD branded slides and a presentation at #BSDCan last year regarding LLM/AI use in FreeBSD source.

                  Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the slides, but I'm sure they do exist.

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                  • veroniqueb99@mastodon.socialV veroniqueb99@mastodon.social

                    It's not getting enough attention that the Trump administration has banned the sale of ALL WiFi routers made outside of the US. It's one of the first steps required to control Americans' use of the Internet, to spy on what you're doing online, to suppress information they don't want you to see and to even turn off the Internet at their discretion.

                    This is looking increasingly like a trap.

                    Link Preview Image
                    FCC imposes sweeping ban on foreign-made routers, affecting all new models

                    Trump admin to decide which router makers get exemptions from FCC import ban.

                    favicon

                    Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

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                    @VeroniqueB99 Is there even such a thing? Even the us brands are made in China... And Trumpistan wants backdoors into the limes of cisco.
                    Putin will be proud of his protégé...

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                    • lattera@bsd.networkL lattera@bsd.network

                      @lw @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 I remember seeing #FreeBSD branded slides and a presentation at #BSDCan last year regarding LLM/AI use in FreeBSD source.

                      Unfortunately, I can't seem to find the slides, but I'm sure they do exist.

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                      @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 there is no such policy. there was some sort of pre-announcement of "we are working on a policy" which bad news organisations like heise.de reported as "FreeBSD rejects LLM code contributions".

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                      • lw@mastodon.bsd.cafeL lw@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                        @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 there is no such policy. there was some sort of pre-announcement of "we are working on a policy" which bad news organisations like heise.de reported as "FreeBSD rejects LLM code contributions".

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                        @lw @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 It's possible I might be misremembering or misunderstanding the presentation.

                        If I get some spare time this weekend, I'll dig deeper for that presentation.

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                        • lattera@bsd.networkL lattera@bsd.network

                          @lw @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 It's possible I might be misremembering or misunderstanding the presentation.

                          If I get some spare time this weekend, I'll dig deeper for that presentation.

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                          @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 i don't doubt your claim there was some sort of presentation related to this (i would be interested to know the details, actually) but as a FreeBSD committer, i can tell you, 100% for sure, we do not have a policy forbidding LLM-assisted commits.

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                          • lw@mastodon.bsd.cafeL lw@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                            @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 i don't doubt your claim there was some sort of presentation related to this (i would be interested to know the details, actually) but as a FreeBSD committer, i can tell you, 100% for sure, we do not have a policy forbidding LLM-assisted commits.

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                            @lw @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 Understood. But I"m still curious about that claim (not made by you) that LLM slop has already made it to FreeBSD.

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                            • veroniqueb99@mastodon.socialV veroniqueb99@mastodon.social

                              It's not getting enough attention that the Trump administration has banned the sale of ALL WiFi routers made outside of the US. It's one of the first steps required to control Americans' use of the Internet, to spy on what you're doing online, to suppress information they don't want you to see and to even turn off the Internet at their discretion.

                              This is looking increasingly like a trap.

                              Link Preview Image
                              FCC imposes sweeping ban on foreign-made routers, affecting all new models

                              Trump admin to decide which router makers get exemptions from FCC import ban.

                              favicon

                              Ars Technica (arstechnica.com)

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                              @VeroniqueB99 They took notes from ISIS, Iran, Russia, North Korea, and the nazis - not because they wanted to install democracy there, but because they wanted to end it here

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                              • lattera@bsd.networkL lattera@bsd.network

                                @lw @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 Understood. But I"m still curious about that claim (not made by you) that LLM slop has already made it to FreeBSD.

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                                @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 not personally verified, but: https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@evgandr/116291818767869978

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                                • lw@mastodon.bsd.cafeL lw@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                  @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 i don't doubt your claim there was some sort of presentation related to this (i would be interested to know the details, actually) but as a FreeBSD committer, i can tell you, 100% for sure, we do not have a policy forbidding LLM-assisted commits.

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                                  @lw @lattera @as400 @VeroniqueB99
                                  Is it even possible to review all code? How can core take care of all this? It would be a tremendous burden I think.

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                                  • lw@mastodon.bsd.cafeL lw@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                    @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 not personally verified, but: https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@evgandr/116291818767869978

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                                    @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 well, i can verify that 6495dafd58b94a44fc9bc966ef47d6bc6916f5b9 exists in my local git checkout and does include "Co-authored-by: Claude Sonnet 4.6 <noreply@anthropic.com>".

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                                    • lw@mastodon.bsd.cafeL lw@mastodon.bsd.cafe

                                      @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 not personally verified, but: https://mastodon.bsd.cafe/@evgandr/116291818767869978

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                                      @lw @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 I'd call that an LLM commit in a third-party project that FreeBSD just happens to adopt.

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                                      • mudala@mastodon.socialM mudala@mastodon.social

                                        @lw @lattera @as400 @VeroniqueB99
                                        Is it even possible to review all code? How can core take care of all this? It would be a tremendous burden I think.

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                                        @mudala @lw @as400 @VeroniqueB99 I generally pay attention to the #FreeBSD src tree commit-by-commit. I've found a few vulnerabilities that way. I'm aware of at least three threat actors at the nation state level that do the same. 🙂

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                                        • lattera@bsd.networkL lattera@bsd.network

                                          @lw @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 I'd call that an LLM commit in a third-party project that FreeBSD just happens to adopt.

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                                          @lattera @as400 @mudala @VeroniqueB99 well, okay. i don't really care about this issue one way or the other, i was just trying to be helpful 🙂

                                          i can tell you, anecdotally, i know at least several FreeBSD committers who eagerly use LLMs to write code and are very on-board with the AI hype train. it's almost certain those people have committed LLM-assisted code.

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