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  • sean@scoat.esS sean@scoat.es

    Regularly, I use the following for near-realtime communications ("text messages”).

    - SMS/RCS/iMessage (friends, family)
    - Facebook Messenger (friends, family)
    - What's App (friends)
    - ActivityPub/Mastodon (friends)
    - Matrix (friends, work)
    - Discord (work)
    - Mattermost (friends, locals)

    I'm sure I'm missing some.

    The fact that no one is allowed to make a single piece of software (for wide distribution) that talks on all of these systems is the kind of garbage @pluralistic often talks about.

    kaze@meow.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
    kaze@meow.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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    #4

    @sean @pluralistic well, we used to have some when IRC/MSN were kings. Adium, Pidgin, Trillian and so on...

    But closed platforms took over by offering slick interfaces, emojis and stickers.

    For me, it began with Facebook Messenger replacing MSN, Slack replacing IRC and/or MSN, and so on.

    We never learn, we are continually repeating the same cycle, the same mistakes

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    • pluralistic@mamot.frP This user is from outside of this forum
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      pluralistic@mamot.fr
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      #5

      @hobbs @sean Still kicking and kicking ass @grimmy

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      • sean@scoat.esS sean@scoat.es

        Regularly, I use the following for near-realtime communications ("text messages”).

        - SMS/RCS/iMessage (friends, family)
        - Facebook Messenger (friends, family)
        - What's App (friends)
        - ActivityPub/Mastodon (friends)
        - Matrix (friends, work)
        - Discord (work)
        - Mattermost (friends, locals)

        I'm sure I'm missing some.

        The fact that no one is allowed to make a single piece of software (for wide distribution) that talks on all of these systems is the kind of garbage @pluralistic often talks about.

        mwop@phpc.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
        mwop@phpc.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
        mwop@phpc.social
        wrote last edited by
        #6

        @sean @pluralistic I remember back in the day (God but I hate saying that phrase!) using Pidgin for precisely this sort of messaging sprawl... And now most of the messaging apps are walled gardens incapable of integration.

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        • sean@scoat.esS sean@scoat.es

          Regularly, I use the following for near-realtime communications ("text messages”).

          - SMS/RCS/iMessage (friends, family)
          - Facebook Messenger (friends, family)
          - What's App (friends)
          - ActivityPub/Mastodon (friends)
          - Matrix (friends, work)
          - Discord (work)
          - Mattermost (friends, locals)

          I'm sure I'm missing some.

          The fact that no one is allowed to make a single piece of software (for wide distribution) that talks on all of these systems is the kind of garbage @pluralistic often talks about.

          jamesb192@fosstodon.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jamesb192@fosstodon.orgJ This user is from outside of this forum
          jamesb192@fosstodon.org
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          @sean @pluralistic not libpurple.

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          • mwop@phpc.socialM mwop@phpc.social

            @sean @pluralistic I remember back in the day (God but I hate saying that phrase!) using Pidgin for precisely this sort of messaging sprawl... And now most of the messaging apps are walled gardens incapable of integration.

            manchuck@phpc.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            manchuck@phpc.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
            manchuck@phpc.social
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            #8

            @mwop @sean @pluralistic do you WUPFH?

            https://youtu.be/uRoCMde-Cm8?si=-QcLjY08QqaYXC6g

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            • mwop@phpc.socialM mwop@phpc.social

              @sean @pluralistic I remember back in the day (God but I hate saying that phrase!) using Pidgin for precisely this sort of messaging sprawl... And now most of the messaging apps are walled gardens incapable of integration.

              manchuck@phpc.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
              manchuck@phpc.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
              manchuck@phpc.social
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              #9

              @mwop @sean @pluralistic also just got an idea for a Vonage demo. That will make my boss @dragonmantank happy

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              • sean@scoat.esS sean@scoat.es

                Regularly, I use the following for near-realtime communications ("text messages”).

                - SMS/RCS/iMessage (friends, family)
                - Facebook Messenger (friends, family)
                - What's App (friends)
                - ActivityPub/Mastodon (friends)
                - Matrix (friends, work)
                - Discord (work)
                - Mattermost (friends, locals)

                I'm sure I'm missing some.

                The fact that no one is allowed to make a single piece of software (for wide distribution) that talks on all of these systems is the kind of garbage @pluralistic often talks about.

                salty@mastodon.nzS This user is from outside of this forum
                salty@mastodon.nzS This user is from outside of this forum
                salty@mastodon.nz
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                #10

                @sean @pluralistic No Signal!?

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                • sean@scoat.esS sean@scoat.es

                  Regularly, I use the following for near-realtime communications ("text messages”).

                  - SMS/RCS/iMessage (friends, family)
                  - Facebook Messenger (friends, family)
                  - What's App (friends)
                  - ActivityPub/Mastodon (friends)
                  - Matrix (friends, work)
                  - Discord (work)
                  - Mattermost (friends, locals)

                  I'm sure I'm missing some.

                  The fact that no one is allowed to make a single piece of software (for wide distribution) that talks on all of these systems is the kind of garbage @pluralistic often talks about.

                  johns@freeradical.zoneJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  johns@freeradical.zoneJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  johns@freeradical.zone
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                  #11

                  @sean Matrix does have a number of integrations. I'm currently using it to connect to WhatsApp, Mattermost has a matrix integration (https://mattermost.com/marketplace/mattermost-matrix-connector/), and I believe there are other bridges for Discord/etc.
                  It's not a perfect solution, and is somewhat tech-heavy to get working well, but it's better than nothing?

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                  • sean@scoat.esS sean@scoat.es

                    Regularly, I use the following for near-realtime communications ("text messages”).

                    - SMS/RCS/iMessage (friends, family)
                    - Facebook Messenger (friends, family)
                    - What's App (friends)
                    - ActivityPub/Mastodon (friends)
                    - Matrix (friends, work)
                    - Discord (work)
                    - Mattermost (friends, locals)

                    I'm sure I'm missing some.

                    The fact that no one is allowed to make a single piece of software (for wide distribution) that talks on all of these systems is the kind of garbage @pluralistic often talks about.

                    krutor@loma.mlK This user is from outside of this forum
                    krutor@loma.mlK This user is from outside of this forum
                    krutor@loma.ml
                    wrote last edited by
                    #12

                    Is it? I am not sure, that this is the big problem. Isn't it big tech which lock us in and wanted to keep us at their services. Big tech like Meta (facebook, whatsapp) oder risc capital raisers like discord? Is a open and easy to share internet possible which such players?
                    I doubt that. I would rather install 2 services like signal and mastodon to share my stuff than trust a single company driven solution. What do you think? @sean
                    Maybe we just differ in opinions what the bigger problem is but share similiar thoughts so I hope you do not see "bad vibes" from my point of view 😉

                    @pluralistic

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                    • sean@scoat.esS sean@scoat.es

                      Regularly, I use the following for near-realtime communications ("text messages”).

                      - SMS/RCS/iMessage (friends, family)
                      - Facebook Messenger (friends, family)
                      - What's App (friends)
                      - ActivityPub/Mastodon (friends)
                      - Matrix (friends, work)
                      - Discord (work)
                      - Mattermost (friends, locals)

                      I'm sure I'm missing some.

                      The fact that no one is allowed to make a single piece of software (for wide distribution) that talks on all of these systems is the kind of garbage @pluralistic often talks about.

                      astifter@mastodon.astifter.comA This user is from outside of this forum
                      astifter@mastodon.astifter.comA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      #13

                      @sean @pluralistic The two that you maybe could actually bridge (AcitvityPub and Matrix) are so far apart, regarding what they are for, it's most probably useless as well.

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                      • sean@scoat.esS sean@scoat.es

                        Regularly, I use the following for near-realtime communications ("text messages”).

                        - SMS/RCS/iMessage (friends, family)
                        - Facebook Messenger (friends, family)
                        - What's App (friends)
                        - ActivityPub/Mastodon (friends)
                        - Matrix (friends, work)
                        - Discord (work)
                        - Mattermost (friends, locals)

                        I'm sure I'm missing some.

                        The fact that no one is allowed to make a single piece of software (for wide distribution) that talks on all of these systems is the kind of garbage @pluralistic often talks about.

                        glc@mastodon.onlineG This user is from outside of this forum
                        glc@mastodon.onlineG This user is from outside of this forum
                        glc@mastodon.online
                        wrote last edited by
                        #14

                        @sean

                        My wife must use Teams to communicate with her mother in a nursing home.

                        It's not actually working properly, and other things would (and did), which also frustrates the staff on the other end. They are not permitted to use things that actually work as intended.

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