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Currently, the outrage to the visible contents of the Epstein files is so mild that I have to think the majority of people just aren’t even casually checking them.

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  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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    Currently, the outrage to the visible contents of the Epstein files is so mild that I have to think the majority of people just aren’t even casually checking them. I can’t think of a phrase to describe what I’ve read even as a forensic analyst. “Cartoonishly evil” is too gentle. Horrific. Inhuman.

    wollman@mastodon.socialW hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH ehproque@neopaquita.esE rmd1023@infosec.exchangeR gbargoud@masto.nycG 10 Replies Last reply
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    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

      Currently, the outrage to the visible contents of the Epstein files is so mild that I have to think the majority of people just aren’t even casually checking them. I can’t think of a phrase to describe what I’ve read even as a forensic analyst. “Cartoonishly evil” is too gentle. Horrific. Inhuman.

      wollman@mastodon.socialW This user is from outside of this forum
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      @hacks4pancakes The vast majority of people get their news from the media, not from newly published primary sources, and the media are largely not on the right side. (Well, they are on the right side of the ancien-regime French parliament.)

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      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

        Currently, the outrage to the visible contents of the Epstein files is so mild that I have to think the majority of people just aren’t even casually checking them. I can’t think of a phrase to describe what I’ve read even as a forensic analyst. “Cartoonishly evil” is too gentle. Horrific. Inhuman.

        hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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        They’re not just talking about rape, they’re taking about kids. They’re not just talking about kids, they’re implying destroying bodies. They’re not just talking about destroying bodies, they’re talking about killing babies. They’re not just taking about killing babies, they’re talking about how they taste. And repeatedly implicated people still have their jobs, right now. Holy shit, people.

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        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

          Currently, the outrage to the visible contents of the Epstein files is so mild that I have to think the majority of people just aren’t even casually checking them. I can’t think of a phrase to describe what I’ve read even as a forensic analyst. “Cartoonishly evil” is too gentle. Horrific. Inhuman.

          ehproque@neopaquita.esE This user is from outside of this forum
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          @hacks4pancakes I think it's mostly a survival mechanism, considering it's increasingly looking like no one's going to face consequences. (Stateside; in the UK it looks like this is going to be the thing to topple Starmer)

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          • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

            Currently, the outrage to the visible contents of the Epstein files is so mild that I have to think the majority of people just aren’t even casually checking them. I can’t think of a phrase to describe what I’ve read even as a forensic analyst. “Cartoonishly evil” is too gentle. Horrific. Inhuman.

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            @hacks4pancakes I haven't had the intestinal fortitude to read very much of the actual files but even what I have and what I have had described by others is, well, I am incandescent with rage at the whole thing. It's like some kind of fractal-shaped rage where I keep looking at some bit in particular and have all sorts of rage about that and the closer you look the more fucking enraging stuff there is.

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            • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

              They’re not just talking about rape, they’re taking about kids. They’re not just talking about kids, they’re implying destroying bodies. They’re not just talking about destroying bodies, they’re talking about killing babies. They’re not just taking about killing babies, they’re talking about how they taste. And repeatedly implicated people still have their jobs, right now. Holy shit, people.

              hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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              Think of the darkest caricature of evil you can think of in media and even it probably didn’t go quite this far. Even the most disgusting torture prn to get banned from international cinemas. AND THE IMPLICATED PEOPLE STILL HAVE JOBS.

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              • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                Think of the darkest caricature of evil you can think of in media and even it probably didn’t go quite this far. Even the most disgusting torture prn to get banned from international cinemas. AND THE IMPLICATED PEOPLE STILL HAVE JOBS.

                wooramel@furries.clubW This user is from outside of this forum
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                @hacks4pancakes I was writing an 'evil' character and wondered if I'd gone to far. Then I read the news and thought 'Man, I'm such an amateur.'
                The evil of humanity is so extreme it is beyond my ability to imagine.

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                • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                  Currently, the outrage to the visible contents of the Epstein files is so mild that I have to think the majority of people just aren’t even casually checking them. I can’t think of a phrase to describe what I’ve read even as a forensic analyst. “Cartoonishly evil” is too gentle. Horrific. Inhuman.

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                  @hacks4pancakes

                  I don't know how anyone is not looking up likely names in them constantly to see if they're in there and how

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                    @alatartheblue these are the people who dictate our laws and control our communities

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                    • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                      Currently, the outrage to the visible contents of the Epstein files is so mild that I have to think the majority of people just aren’t even casually checking them. I can’t think of a phrase to describe what I’ve read even as a forensic analyst. “Cartoonishly evil” is too gentle. Horrific. Inhuman.

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                      @hacks4pancakes Everybody’s like, “That’s what super-villains do 🤷🏼‍♂️” and I gotta take beat to process this. It’s mind-boggling. Disgustingly mind-boggling.

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                      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                        Currently, the outrage to the visible contents of the Epstein files is so mild that I have to think the majority of people just aren’t even casually checking them. I can’t think of a phrase to describe what I’ve read even as a forensic analyst. “Cartoonishly evil” is too gentle. Horrific. Inhuman.

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                        @hacks4pancakes

                        i haven't deep dived much mostly because the mixture of boiling rage and physical nausea is overwhelming. there aren't enough criminal charges or long enough prison sentences for these folks. not even sure how to help heal the victims but we can't lose sight of that as a goal too.

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                        • gbargoud@masto.nycG gbargoud@masto.nyc

                          @hacks4pancakes

                          I don't know how anyone is not looking up likely names in them constantly to see if they're in there and how

                          hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @gbargoud exactly!!!

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                          • ehproque@neopaquita.esE ehproque@neopaquita.es

                            @hacks4pancakes I think it's mostly a survival mechanism, considering it's increasingly looking like no one's going to face consequences. (Stateside; in the UK it looks like this is going to be the thing to topple Starmer)

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                            It does look like Starmer will fall, but he was already looking like he was going to fall so, IDK.
                            @ehproque @hacks4pancakes

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                            • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                              Think of the darkest caricature of evil you can think of in media and even it probably didn’t go quite this far. Even the most disgusting torture prn to get banned from international cinemas. AND THE IMPLICATED PEOPLE STILL HAVE JOBS.

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                              @hacks4pancakes Pizzagate was obviously totally made up, and yet generated more tangible outrage in the US than Epstein.

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                              • wooramel@furries.clubW wooramel@furries.club

                                @hacks4pancakes I was writing an 'evil' character and wondered if I'd gone to far. Then I read the news and thought 'Man, I'm such an amateur.'
                                The evil of humanity is so extreme it is beyond my ability to imagine.

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                                @wooramel +1

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                                • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                  Think of the darkest caricature of evil you can think of in media and even it probably didn’t go quite this far. Even the most disgusting torture prn to get banned from international cinemas. AND THE IMPLICATED PEOPLE STILL HAVE JOBS.

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                                  @hacks4pancakes Now, how does one go about this type of justice? It reminds me a little bit of Germany after WW2.

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                                  • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                    Currently, the outrage to the visible contents of the Epstein files is so mild that I have to think the majority of people just aren’t even casually checking them. I can’t think of a phrase to describe what I’ve read even as a forensic analyst. “Cartoonishly evil” is too gentle. Horrific. Inhuman.

                                    mustardfacial@infosec.exchangeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @hacks4pancakes I think the average person is just doing a casual check for a couple names and unless they come across something horrific right away are largely ignoring the rest or waiting for someone else to give them a synopsis on what's in there.

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                                    • mattblaze@federate.socialM mattblaze@federate.social

                                      @hacks4pancakes Pizzagate was obviously totally made up, and yet generated more tangible outrage in the US than Epstein.

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                                      @mattblaze @hacks4pancakes Utterly unsolicited, but here is where the asymmetry of the media ecosystems between left/right do the left a disservice. The left need not lie to gin up righteous anger and moral outrage about what's happening, and yet: whither the Shapiros, the Kirks of the left? And MSNOW ain't exactly Fox.

                                      The left (for some values of left) seems to have learned that public outrage is a characteristic of the right, and therefore to be avoided. I would much rather it be matched and exceeded with the weight of truth behind it.

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                                      • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                        Currently, the outrage to the visible contents of the Epstein files is so mild that I have to think the majority of people just aren’t even casually checking them. I can’t think of a phrase to describe what I’ve read even as a forensic analyst. “Cartoonishly evil” is too gentle. Horrific. Inhuman.

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                                        @hacks4pancakes

                                        I know! And if you don’t want to go through it all, at least listen to a lot of the independent creators who have and are sharing what they found. Believe the victims. Give all the benefit of the doubt to them, and absolutely none to these men who are what I would call demonic. Horror films couldn’t even be this grotesque and worse, all joking and normalized between them. Children spoken of in unimaginable ways…

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                                        • hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchangeH hacks4pancakes@infosec.exchange

                                          Currently, the outrage to the visible contents of the Epstein files is so mild that I have to think the majority of people just aren’t even casually checking them. I can’t think of a phrase to describe what I’ve read even as a forensic analyst. “Cartoonishly evil” is too gentle. Horrific. Inhuman.

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                                          @hacks4pancakes

                                          I think it's a flood strategy. Most of the general public doesn't have the attention span to sift through literally millions of files of what amounts to raw intelligence and do the analysis, and the hapsburg-jawed nepobabies that call themselves "journalists" are too craven and/or incompetent to do it.

                                          It'll make its way out in time, but I'm guessing the oligarchs, in true corporate raider fashion, have told themselves "I'll be long gone by then"

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