current status: writing a build system in cmake
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current status: writing a build system in cmake
not "something that builds a project and is also implemented in implemented in cmake"
no, it is "something that is implemented in cmake and can be used to implement a build system that is in turn used as a part of a build system (also in cmake)"
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current status: writing a build system in cmake
not "something that builds a project and is also implemented in implemented in cmake"
no, it is "something that is implemented in cmake and can be used to implement a build system that is in turn used as a part of a build system (also in cmake)"
@whitequark checks out
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current status: writing a build system in cmake
not "something that builds a project and is also implemented in implemented in cmake"
no, it is "something that is implemented in cmake and can be used to implement a build system that is in turn used as a part of a build system (also in cmake)"
i'm making it sound more complicated than it is, the actual thing boils down to "cmake's dependency resolution algorithm doesn't work for a particular edge case i'm having, so i'm implementing a different one, in cmake script"
but also "dependency resolution algorithm" is basically what a build system is, so,
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i'm making it sound more complicated than it is, the actual thing boils down to "cmake's dependency resolution algorithm doesn't work for a particular edge case i'm having, so i'm implementing a different one, in cmake script"
but also "dependency resolution algorithm" is basically what a build system is, so,
hasn't read the book / has read the book
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hasn't read the book / has read the book
@whitequark lolz
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hasn't read the book / has read the book
@whitequark which book?
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@whitequark which book?
@solonovamax the meme i'm obliquely referencing was about GoT red wedding
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current status: writing a build system in cmake
not "something that builds a project and is also implemented in implemented in cmake"
no, it is "something that is implemented in cmake and can be used to implement a build system that is in turn used as a part of a build system (also in cmake)"
@whitequark That must be the most masochistic tech project short of installing Window ME.
Now I wonder what you're up to next
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@whitequark That must be the most masochistic tech project short of installing Window ME.
Now I wonder what you're up to next
@x42 in something like 2019 i tried to improve the "simple makefile" that this project used to have and it damn near gave me a psychotic break after i stared at it for three days. believe me, meta-cmake is an improvement
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@whitequark Any sufficiently complicated Cmake project contains an ad hoc, informally-specified, bug-ridden, slow implementation of half of a working build system.
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The world of buildsystems is weird and fascinating.
My opinion on cmake is that (for certain domains) it's the best there is, and that's sad.
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to be clear i'm not doing this because i love writing cmake syntax that would drive mere mortals mad. i do it because i'm replacing a "simple Makefile" that has perhaps once fit that bill, but eventually turned into a 1200-line (not including *.inc files) monstrosity with a load-bearing rot13 call inside of a manual reimplementation of half of
git submodule(this particular monstrosity has since been removed but the overall genre has not changed)
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to be clear i'm not doing this because i love writing cmake syntax that would drive mere mortals mad. i do it because i'm replacing a "simple Makefile" that has perhaps once fit that bill, but eventually turned into a 1200-line (not including *.inc files) monstrosity with a load-bearing rot13 call inside of a manual reimplementation of half of
git submodule(this particular monstrosity has since been removed but the overall genre has not changed)
every time you run
makeit executes so many$(shell)calls (there are 40 of them, though some would beifeq'd out) that it takes more time to create a dependency graph than to incrementally compile and link one compilation unit** if you use lld and split-dwarf, but still
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to be clear i'm not doing this because i love writing cmake syntax that would drive mere mortals mad. i do it because i'm replacing a "simple Makefile" that has perhaps once fit that bill, but eventually turned into a 1200-line (not including *.inc files) monstrosity with a load-bearing rot13 call inside of a manual reimplementation of half of
git submodule(this particular monstrosity has since been removed but the overall genre has not changed)
@whitequark Catherine is just doing build system freediving again
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to be clear i'm not doing this because i love writing cmake syntax that would drive mere mortals mad. i do it because i'm replacing a "simple Makefile" that has perhaps once fit that bill, but eventually turned into a 1200-line (not including *.inc files) monstrosity with a load-bearing rot13 call inside of a manual reimplementation of half of
git submodule(this particular monstrosity has since been removed but the overall genre has not changed)
@whitequark what is it using rot13 for? -
@whitequark Catherine is just doing build system freediving again
@chrisvest @whitequark what an amazing turn of phrase, thank you for this
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@whitequark what is it using rot13 for?
@noisytoot i think it was trying to grep itself but without hitting the grep call, or something similarly unhinged
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@whitequark Gah. This, this, this. I like having Makefiles or similar to capture blessed ways of invoking build systems, but yeah, there's a reason build systems exist, ffs.
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@whitequark Gah. This, this, this. I like having Makefiles or similar to capture blessed ways of invoking build systems, but yeah, there's a reason build systems exist, ffs.
@xgranade @whitequark developer looking at essential complexity: I can remove this accidental complexity
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@whitequark every succesful Makefile-driven project I've seen is in fact a complex Makefile
