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Stubsack: weekly thread for sneers not worth an entire post, week ending 10th May 2026

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  • F fiat_lux@lemmy.zip

    Never hallucinate or make anything up.

    I know you already mentioned this part in your post, but I'm still completely taken aback that it's just in there like this - as though it wouldn't be in the system prompt if it stood a chance of working.

    If I were the kind of person to be shilling LLMs and posting prompts, I would still be ashamed to share this one. It's a tacit condemnation of both the tool itself and the tool posting it.

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    soyweiser@awful.systems
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    I would still be ashamed

    Well pmarca is an self admitted p-zombie.

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    • F fiat_lux@lemmy.zip

      Never hallucinate or make anything up.

      I know you already mentioned this part in your post, but I'm still completely taken aback that it's just in there like this - as though it wouldn't be in the system prompt if it stood a chance of working.

      If I were the kind of person to be shilling LLMs and posting prompts, I would still be ashamed to share this one. It's a tacit condemnation of both the tool itself and the tool posting it.

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      primavera@void.lgbt
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      @fiat_lux @sansruse bby please....plz babyy tell me certified Truths only baby clau clau please don't just put words together in a way that tricks my ancient caveperson brain into thinking it is a coherent thought pattern plz nooooo 😭
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      • F fiat_lux@lemmy.zip

        Never hallucinate or make anything up.

        I know you already mentioned this part in your post, but I'm still completely taken aback that it's just in there like this - as though it wouldn't be in the system prompt if it stood a chance of working.

        If I were the kind of person to be shilling LLMs and posting prompts, I would still be ashamed to share this one. It's a tacit condemnation of both the tool itself and the tool posting it.

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        tbortels@infosec.exchange
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        @fiat_lux @sansruse

        So much of AI use tends to be wishful thinking anyway, why not?

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        • B burgersmcslopshot@awful.systems

          Yeah, the comparison to a metal lathe (I'm assuming that's what is meant by "machine lathe") irks me. Metal lathes are useful tools that come in a variety of sizes, can be operated independently of their manufacturer's wishes, and on the bigger ones, a sufficient lack of respect will kill you and it will hurt the entire time you are dying.

          I wouldn't compare llms to any sort of useful physical tool. I don't have to plead with my screwdriver to not cam out screw heads, I just need to be cognizant of how I am using it. I don't have to beg my hammer "please don't hit my thumb", I just need to not be an ape/buzzed while swinging it. I respect physical tools and their use in part because they do work and in part because improper operation will cause you to have a bad time. Nobody at Estwing has publicly said "well mate, we're going to capture all your hammering and rent it back to you". Nobody at Bridgeport gleefully reported that their tooling will cause massive unemployment because it is so good.

          I do not respect LLMs because LLMs might still kill you but only in the stupidest way possible, and because their main proponents have no respect for anything and this has been made painfully obvious over and over again. Would using them allow me to craft better sneers about them? Perhaps, but I shouldn't need to do that because the people at the top of these things are evil and while that alone should be enough, their biggest boosters are credulous idiots and many of them were already awful well before we were playing enterprise pretend on the scale of billions of dollars.

          In conclusion, I would ask software people to stop comparing shit software to useful tools.

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          yournetworkishaunted@awful.systems
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          The metaphor I've used before is hammering a nail in with a shoe. It can work. If you have a lot of nail-hammering experience - especially hammering-shoe experience - you can find ways to improve how effectively it works. But by the time you're able to use a shoe as anything resembling a hammer you should be able to both do the work better with the right tool, even if it is less convenient (needing to write the code yourself being analogous to needing to carry a big hammer with you) and more importantly recognize why it's not an acceptable tool. Especially because in this analogy the only shoes are made of the finest orphan leather.

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          • S soyweiser@awful.systems

            From your prev post:

            There is a “lattice” which connects all consciousnesses

            The noosphere, the old cosmists strike again. This sort of stuff and the global consciousness projects (who used random number generators iirc) etc are def part of the training data.

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            yournetworkishaunted@awful.systems
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            If nothing else they got the SCP wiki in there which gets into some of the noosphere stuff in the more esoteric and metatextual entries.

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            • S sansruse@awful.systems

              this is extremely low hanging fruit but i have to do it:

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              marc andreessen reveals his AI prompt. my favorite part is where he tells it to use as many words as possible, as if LLMs are normally too terse. But i also really like the part where he tells it not to hallucinate, and the part where he tells it it's really smart as if that will make it do a better job.

              really, the whole thing is an elaborate way to say "make no mistakes, but anti-wokely". Thought Leader in the investment space btw.

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              avuko@infosec.exchange
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              @sansruse @BlueMonday1984

              “You are a world class expert in all domains.”

              Lolwut.

              And then some grown-ass adult answering in all seriousness:

              “fun fact: role prompting doesn't work anymore

              It actually decreases output quality bc the model wastes compute on matching persona instead of problem solving”

              What the hell?!

              Go buy yourself a freaking tamagotchi, boys! You’ll learn to practise a modicum of care for something.

              FFS, this timeline is the absolute dumbest…

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              • C corbin@awful.systems

                Yud takes $10k to debate a random bro. The bro claims to work at an AI lab. The moderator is an acolyte of Yud. Everybody sucks here and I could not stop laughing.

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                bioman@awful.systems
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                It's absolutely crazy, but I think Yud is the less unhinged person here

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                • Y yournetworkishaunted@awful.systems

                  If nothing else they got the SCP wiki in there which gets into some of the noosphere stuff in the more esoteric and metatextual entries.

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                  bioman@awful.systems
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                  So we are inferring that in the vector space of all possible sentences, QNTM is sitting at one of the attractors?

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                  • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

                    @sansruse @BlueMonday1984

                    “You are a world class expert in all domains.”

                    Lolwut.

                    And then some grown-ass adult answering in all seriousness:

                    “fun fact: role prompting doesn't work anymore

                    It actually decreases output quality bc the model wastes compute on matching persona instead of problem solving”

                    What the hell?!

                    Go buy yourself a freaking tamagotchi, boys! You’ll learn to practise a modicum of care for something.

                    FFS, this timeline is the absolute dumbest…

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                    munin@infosec.exchange
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                    @avuko @sansruse @BlueMonday1984

                    I find it absolutely fascinating how the LLM prayers resemble ritual incantations to invoke divine powers from various ancient religions.

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                    • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

                      @sansruse @BlueMonday1984

                      “You are a world class expert in all domains.”

                      Lolwut.

                      And then some grown-ass adult answering in all seriousness:

                      “fun fact: role prompting doesn't work anymore

                      It actually decreases output quality bc the model wastes compute on matching persona instead of problem solving”

                      What the hell?!

                      Go buy yourself a freaking tamagotchi, boys! You’ll learn to practise a modicum of care for something.

                      FFS, this timeline is the absolute dumbest…

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                      cinebox@masto.hackers.town
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                      @avuko @sansruse @BlueMonday1984 problem solving? what fucking problem solving lmao

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                      • munin@infosec.exchangeM munin@infosec.exchange

                        @avuko @sansruse @BlueMonday1984

                        I find it absolutely fascinating how the LLM prayers resemble ritual incantations to invoke divine powers from various ancient religions.

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                        avuko@infosec.exchange
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                        @munin @sansruse @BlueMonday1984

                        lol, now that you mention it.

                        Same shit, different millennium.

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                        • avuko@infosec.exchangeA avuko@infosec.exchange

                          @munin @sansruse @BlueMonday1984

                          lol, now that you mention it.

                          Same shit, different millennium.

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                          munin@infosec.exchange
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                          @avuko @sansruse @BlueMonday1984

                          Except the prayers to Thoth are a bit more respectful, lol.

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