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  3. Atlassian will begin collecting customer metadata and in-app content from Jira, Confluence, and other cloud products by default on August 17, 2026, to train its AI offerings including Rovo and Rovo Dev.

Atlassian will begin collecting customer metadata and in-app content from Jira, Confluence, and other cloud products by default on August 17, 2026, to train its AI offerings including Rovo and Rovo Dev.

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  • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

    Atlassian will begin collecting customer metadata and in-app content from Jira, Confluence, and other cloud products by default on August 17, 2026, to train its AI offerings including Rovo and Rovo Dev. The change affects roughly 300,000 customers; metadata collection is mandatory for Free, Standard, and Premium tiers and cannot be opted out on those plans. https://letsdatascience.com/news/atlassian-enables-default-data-collection-to-train-ai-f71343d8

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    @nixCraft just one question. Why? They can lost their customers.

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    • kkarhan@jorts.horseK kkarhan@jorts.horse

      @nixCraft And to add insult to injury: One cannot get new #OnPremise #licensing for these products!

      • I hope @EUCommission do ban this shite or ban #Atlassian across the #EU for violating #GDPR.
        • Cuz only #accountability and #consequences can help!
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      @kkarhan @nixCraft no, you can't. We were forced into cloud use a two or three years back, since our company certification requires up-to-date software and hardware. Not that Atlassian would have fallen under that scope, but the server it needed to run on did.

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      • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

        Atlassian will begin collecting customer metadata and in-app content from Jira, Confluence, and other cloud products by default on August 17, 2026, to train its AI offerings including Rovo and Rovo Dev. The change affects roughly 300,000 customers; metadata collection is mandatory for Free, Standard, and Premium tiers and cannot be opted out on those plans. https://letsdatascience.com/news/atlassian-enables-default-data-collection-to-train-ai-f71343d8

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        @nixCraft any info when and if this is planned for EU customers who have to conform to GDPA? Especially if they were promised by Atlassian to have an EU-hosted, GDPA-compliant service?

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        • neil_h@ohai.socialN neil_h@ohai.social

          @kkarhan @nixCraft no, you can't. We were forced into cloud use a two or three years back, since our company certification requires up-to-date software and hardware. Not that Atlassian would have fallen under that scope, but the server it needed to run on did.

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          @neil_h @nixCraft WTF!?

          And #Atlassian refused to provide updates so it could be migrated to a more up-to-date system?

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          • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

            Atlassian will begin collecting customer metadata and in-app content from Jira, Confluence, and other cloud products by default on August 17, 2026, to train its AI offerings including Rovo and Rovo Dev. The change affects roughly 300,000 customers; metadata collection is mandatory for Free, Standard, and Premium tiers and cannot be opted out on those plans. https://letsdatascience.com/news/atlassian-enables-default-data-collection-to-train-ai-f71343d8

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            @nixCraft @macosas En vías de abandonar Trello definitivamente

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            • nixcraft@mastodon.socialN nixcraft@mastodon.social

              Atlassian will begin collecting customer metadata and in-app content from Jira, Confluence, and other cloud products by default on August 17, 2026, to train its AI offerings including Rovo and Rovo Dev. The change affects roughly 300,000 customers; metadata collection is mandatory for Free, Standard, and Premium tiers and cannot be opted out on those plans. https://letsdatascience.com/news/atlassian-enables-default-data-collection-to-train-ai-f71343d8

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              @nixCraft

              "Cannot opt out" AI software for customers, creates yet another business to ditch.

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              If a software company dictates to its customers the degree of privacy & confidentiality they're permitted to retain, it is time to cancel a licensing contract.

              Oracle is losing money over its AI spyware & getting sued
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                @neil_h @nixCraft WTF!?

                And #Atlassian refused to provide updates so it could be migrated to a more up-to-date system?

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                @kkarhan @nixCraft nope, no further support. Maybe it wasn't only the server it was running on, but also the software itself, too.

                No matter, no self-hosting licenses were obtainable any more. And it took our CTO weeks of persistent enquiries to find out whether they would provide a GDPA (DSGVO) compliant service.

                Only once we got that did we decide to renew. And even then, we looked at alternatives, but none satisfied (then).

                Since then - #enshittification , basically.

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                  If a software company dictates to its customers the degree of privacy & confidentiality they're permitted to retain, it is time to cancel a licensing contract.

                  Oracle is losing money over its AI spyware & getting sued
                  https://slate.com/technology/2026/03/iran-ai-cbs-oracle-larry-ellison-paramount-warner-bros-trump.html

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                  Meta is also getting sued for its AI spyware
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                  Using mass layoffs, AI corporations are trying to hide that their AI initiatives are bleeding money and losing them customers & revenue.
                  Stealing customer data isn't popular.
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                    @NineStonesClose @nixCraft Getting out of the atlassian vendor lock-in is hard. E.g. all the workflows in jira would need to be replicated with another software that sucks even more UX wise, or doesn’t have all the features one needs, which also degrades UX. And then you’d still need to somehow export everything from confluence, and jira to import into the new tool(s). I wish migrating to something else wasn’t a royal, months spanning pain in the ass.

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                    @schrotthaufen @NineStonesClose @nixCraft

                    Companies have a fiduciary responsibility to their customers regarding privacy & confidentiality.

                    If a vendor is threatening a customer to reveal its data to train AI for all its competitors, it's time to let Atlassian go as a vendor.

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                    • cleopatro@masto.esC cleopatro@masto.es

                      @nixCraft @macosas En vías de abandonar Trello definitivamente

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                      @cleopatro qué manera de cargarse cosas tienen estas compañías

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                      • neil_h@ohai.socialN neil_h@ohai.social

                        @kkarhan @nixCraft nope, no further support. Maybe it wasn't only the server it was running on, but also the software itself, too.

                        No matter, no self-hosting licenses were obtainable any more. And it took our CTO weeks of persistent enquiries to find out whether they would provide a GDPA (DSGVO) compliant service.

                        Only once we got that did we decide to renew. And even then, we looked at alternatives, but none satisfied (then).

                        Since then - #enshittification , basically.

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                        @neil_h @nixCraft that's really sad, cuz #Atlassian's #SaaS offering doesn't even offer proper #Backups & #Restore, which to me is a "make or break criterion"…

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                          2/

                          Microsoft has less than 4% of its user base pay for Copilot. It's loathed.
                          https://finance.yahoo.com/news/microsoft-440-billion-wipeout-investors-175614975.html

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                          For years, investors have tried to figure out how many users are actually paying for a product that is at the center of Microsoft's artificial intelligence strategy.

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                          Meta is also getting sued for its AI spyware
                          https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/29/metas-court-losses-spell-trouble-for-ai-research-consumer-safety.html

                          Using mass layoffs, AI corporations are trying to hide that their AI initiatives are bleeding money and losing them customers & revenue.
                          Stealing customer data isn't popular.
                          https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/18/atlassians_new_data_collection_policy/

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                          Why Atlassian Stock Fell 36% in February

                          Detailed price information for Atlassian Corp (TEAM-Q) from The Globe and Mail including charting and trades.

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                          Just a moment...

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                          Train an AI, layoffs ensue
                          https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2026/mar/21/atlassian-cuts-layoffs-staff-now-looking-for-work-ai

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                          @Npars01 The "free" version of CoPilot is just an annoying version of Bing, the search engine everybody also hates.

                          Based on an unpleasant and borderline *totally* useless trial, who's going to pay?

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                            @schrotthaufen @NineStonesClose @nixCraft

                            Companies have a fiduciary responsibility to their customers regarding privacy & confidentiality.

                            If a vendor is threatening a customer to reveal its data to train AI for all its competitors, it's time to let Atlassian go as a vendor.

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                            @Npars01 @NineStonesClose @nixCraft All I’m saying is, that it takes *a lot* of effort. Most businesses either don’t care to invest the time, and resources to free themselves from vendor lock-in, or don’t have the capital to do so. If they did care, we’d see a lot more companies ditching Windows 11, as well.

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                              @neil_h @nixCraft that's really sad, cuz #Atlassian's #SaaS offering doesn't even offer proper #Backups & #Restore, which to me is a "make or break criterion"…

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                              @kkarhan @nixCraft we do that locally, I think, in some way. But I'm a developer, not an ops guy, so I'm not so deep in the details.

                              Yes, it's crap. And since then, I've not been happy with their products. Laggy, buttons shifting randomly from unannounced update to unannounced update, annoying CLS issues...

                              Personally, I'd love to go to an alternative, but it was hard enough to get our sales dept on board with any kind of wiki and ticket system as it was...

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                                @Npars01 The "free" version of CoPilot is just an annoying version of Bing, the search engine everybody also hates.

                                Based on an unpleasant and borderline *totally* useless trial, who's going to pay?

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                                  @NineStonesClose @nixCraft Getting out of the atlassian vendor lock-in is hard. E.g. all the workflows in jira would need to be replicated with another software that sucks even more UX wise, or doesn’t have all the features one needs, which also degrades UX. And then you’d still need to somehow export everything from confluence, and jira to import into the new tool(s). I wish migrating to something else wasn’t a royal, months spanning pain in the ass.

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                                  @schrotthaufen
                                  Ah, you do realize that using Atlasian with even one EU based employee is a legal minefield (GDPR, employment laws) that meant quite a bit of work for the chief privacy officers of Atlasian customers before, and that announcement is literally a non starter under EU law.

                                  The fact that they let you opt out by passing more or off that processing of the PI is prototypical for robbing Atlasian of any A6 argument that this a necessary data @NineStonesClose @nixCraft

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                                    @schrotthaufen
                                    Ah, you do realize that using Atlasian with even one EU based employee is a legal minefield (GDPR, employment laws) that meant quite a bit of work for the chief privacy officers of Atlasian customers before, and that announcement is literally a non starter under EU law.

                                    The fact that they let you opt out by passing more or off that processing of the PI is prototypical for robbing Atlasian of any A6 argument that this a necessary data @NineStonesClose @nixCraft

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                                    processing.

                                    One sided ToS changes are something that is frowned upon in many EU MS even in the B2B context. Consequences vary by MS from voiding the contract to damages.

                                    Americans complain that EU rules often hit us big tech most.

                                    Hint: by EU legal standards is companies generally behave like business criminals, on a regular basis. Laws are supposed to hurt and hit the bad guys.
                                    @NineStonesClose @nixCraft @schrotthaufen

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                                      @schrotthaufen
                                      By EU standards is business practices are simply criminal more often than not.

                                      Shrug.

                                      One sided ToS change. Unfair business practice.
                                      Atlasian is already an edge cases GDPR wise.
                                      And did I mention that in the EU one generally better have a license for your training data or be an academic researcher.

                                      Literally in our startup training data licenses are the biggest budget after employee costs.

                                      @NineStonesClose @nixCraft

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                                      @schrotthaufen
                                      And that is implemented bit the copyright act, so it already applies, and as the USA is such a champion of IP it's quite possible that it applies via the wonderful treaties the US trade envoy gutted the world.
                                      @NineStonesClose @nixCraft

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                                        processing.

                                        One sided ToS changes are something that is frowned upon in many EU MS even in the B2B context. Consequences vary by MS from voiding the contract to damages.

                                        Americans complain that EU rules often hit us big tech most.

                                        Hint: by EU legal standards is companies generally behave like business criminals, on a regular basis. Laws are supposed to hurt and hit the bad guys.
                                        @NineStonesClose @nixCraft @schrotthaufen

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                                        @schrotthaufen
                                        By EU standards is business practices are simply criminal more often than not.

                                        Shrug.

                                        One sided ToS change. Unfair business practice.
                                        Atlasian is already an edge cases GDPR wise.
                                        And did I mention that in the EU one generally better have a license for your training data or be an academic researcher.

                                        Literally in our startup training data licenses are the biggest budget after employee costs.

                                        @NineStonesClose @nixCraft

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                                          @neil_h @nixCraft that's really sad, cuz #Atlassian's #SaaS offering doesn't even offer proper #Backups & #Restore, which to me is a "make or break criterion"…

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                                          @kkarhan @neil_h @nixCraft

                                          Ceterum censeo Atlassian esse delendam.

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