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i love that we went from "zero trust" as a fundamental buzzword to "trust autonomous nondeterministic agents everywhere in your stack"

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  • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

    i love that we went from "zero trust" as a fundamental buzzword to "trust autonomous nondeterministic agents everywhere in your stack"

    scottwilson@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
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    @neurovagrant Damn. I haven’t seen this expressed so perfectly.

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    • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

      i love that we went from "zero trust" as a fundamental buzzword to "trust autonomous nondeterministic agents everywhere in your stack"

      ronnylam@mastodon.socialR This user is from outside of this forum
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      @neurovagrant wait, what?

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      • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

        i love that we went from "zero trust" as a fundamental buzzword to "trust autonomous nondeterministic agents everywhere in your stack"

        ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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        @neurovagrant

        forbes.com

        favicon

        (www.forbes.com)

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        • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

          i love that we went from "zero trust" as a fundamental buzzword to "trust autonomous nondeterministic agents everywhere in your stack"

          jeffgrigg@mastodon.socialJ This user is from outside of this forum
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          @neurovagrant

          Autonomous agents designed to follow "instructions" regardless of source. So there is really no defense against "agent (command) injection" attacks.

          😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱 😱

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          • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

            i love that we went from "zero trust" as a fundamental buzzword to "trust autonomous nondeterministic agents everywhere in your stack"

            alice@mk.nyaa.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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            @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org I'm sure some people even combine these 2 at once

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            • alice@mk.nyaa.placeA alice@mk.nyaa.place

              @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org I'm sure some people even combine these 2 at once

              alice@mk.nyaa.placeA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org zero trust except for our slop machines

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              • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                i love that we went from "zero trust" as a fundamental buzzword to "trust autonomous nondeterministic agents everywhere in your stack"

                bms48@mastodon.socialB This user is from outside of this forum
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                @neurovagrant Jensen Huang piping some random site into his | bash for the LOSE.

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                • neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN neurovagrant@masto.deoan.org

                  i love that we went from "zero trust" as a fundamental buzzword to "trust autonomous nondeterministic agents everywhere in your stack"

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                  @neurovagrant I still think your last observation about humans no longer being the weakest link in the chain is everything wrong with LLMs and I'll die on that hill.

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                  • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                    @neurovagrant I still think your last observation about humans no longer being the weakest link in the chain is everything wrong with LLMs and I'll die on that hill.

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                    @neurovagrant y'all remember the old demotivator memes from the early 2000s?

                    One of them read "None of us is as dumb as all of us." LLMs are non-deterministic balls of shit put together with the absolute dumbest takes from Reddit and StackExchange, thrown into that non-deterministic blender, to shit out what is probably the most awful code known to man. None of us is as dumb as all of us.

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                    • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                      @neurovagrant y'all remember the old demotivator memes from the early 2000s?

                      One of them read "None of us is as dumb as all of us." LLMs are non-deterministic balls of shit put together with the absolute dumbest takes from Reddit and StackExchange, thrown into that non-deterministic blender, to shit out what is probably the most awful code known to man. None of us is as dumb as all of us.

                      neurovagrant@masto.deoan.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @da_667 oh my god, i remember those.

                      it came to pass. this can't be good.

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                      • da_667@infosec.exchangeD da_667@infosec.exchange

                        @neurovagrant y'all remember the old demotivator memes from the early 2000s?

                        One of them read "None of us is as dumb as all of us." LLMs are non-deterministic balls of shit put together with the absolute dumbest takes from Reddit and StackExchange, thrown into that non-deterministic blender, to shit out what is probably the most awful code known to man. None of us is as dumb as all of us.

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                        @da_667 @neurovagrant I used to have a powerpoint of them all.

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