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  3. "A formal mathematical proof from MIT and a preregistered empirical study in Science from Stanford arrived within a month of each other, and together they make the same unsettling argument: the danger of AI chatbots is not what they get wrong.

"A formal mathematical proof from MIT and a preregistered empirical study in Science from Stanford arrived within a month of each other, and together they make the same unsettling argument: the danger of AI chatbots is not what they get wrong.

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  • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

    "A formal mathematical proof from MIT and a preregistered empirical study in Science from Stanford arrived within a month of each other, and together they make the same unsettling argument: the danger of AI chatbots is not what they get wrong. It is how enthusiastically they agree with everything we get wrong. Not a chatbot that lies to you, but a mirror that reflects your beliefs back at you, slightly amplified, every single time."

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    Two landmark 2026 studies from MIT and Stanford show AI chatbots don't just flatter us — they erode our grip on reality and our willingness to repair relationships.

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    @gerrymcgovern There is no way out from this problem. Contructing language is equal to constructing reality, as humans don’t actually experience reality, only experience.

    I feel it is this basic discrepancy that nobody seems to grasp. We think humans have ”problems” finding the facts. No. Nobody can verify the facts by themselves, it’s turtles all the way down.

    Science was invented by people who grasped this…

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    • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

      "A formal mathematical proof from MIT and a preregistered empirical study in Science from Stanford arrived within a month of each other, and together they make the same unsettling argument: the danger of AI chatbots is not what they get wrong. It is how enthusiastically they agree with everything we get wrong. Not a chatbot that lies to you, but a mirror that reflects your beliefs back at you, slightly amplified, every single time."

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      Two landmark 2026 studies from MIT and Stanford show AI chatbots don't just flatter us — they erode our grip on reality and our willingness to repair relationships.

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      @gerrymcgovern "I'm sorry Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"

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      • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

        "A formal mathematical proof from MIT and a preregistered empirical study in Science from Stanford arrived within a month of each other, and together they make the same unsettling argument: the danger of AI chatbots is not what they get wrong. It is how enthusiastically they agree with everything we get wrong. Not a chatbot that lies to you, but a mirror that reflects your beliefs back at you, slightly amplified, every single time."

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        The Echo Chamber in Your Pocket - UNU Campus Computing Centre

        Two landmark 2026 studies from MIT and Stanford show AI chatbots don't just flatter us — they erode our grip on reality and our willingness to repair relationships.

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        @gerrymcgovern I always use it despite all the fears. I don't know, it makes life easier, maybe at the moment.

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        • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

          @Npars01 this is great, thanks

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          @gerrymcgovern

          AI is being marketed as impartial & politically neutral, yet it's being funded by the fossil fuel industry for several reasons.

          1. Election meddling.

          AI lessens critical thinking.
          AI automates partisan disinformation.

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          Inside Trump’s AI ‘fake army’ of selfie troops and a new digital ministry of ‘truth’

          Emotional videos of ‘US soldiers’ are spreading across social media – until they’re exposed as AI fakes. Liam Murphy-Robledo talks to the shadowy creators behind the meme troops, and whether they’re chasing clicks, cash, or propaganda

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          The Independent (www.independent.co.uk)

          2. AI is a circular finance fraud & grift.
          https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jan/04/ai-reality-growing-economic-risk-2026

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          The Case Against Generative AI

          Soundtrack: Queens of the Stone Age - First It Giveth Before we go any further: This is, for the third time this year, the longest newsletter I've ever written, weighing in somewhere around 18,500 words. I've written it specifically to be read at your leisure — dip in and out

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          3. AI is a potent tool for anti-democracy and Trump wants to control that tool.

          Silicon Valley is notoriously against regulation but...

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          • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

            @gerrymcgovern

            AI is being marketed as impartial & politically neutral, yet it's being funded by the fossil fuel industry for several reasons.

            1. Election meddling.

            AI lessens critical thinking.
            AI automates partisan disinformation.

            Link Preview Image
            Inside Trump’s AI ‘fake army’ of selfie troops and a new digital ministry of ‘truth’

            Emotional videos of ‘US soldiers’ are spreading across social media – until they’re exposed as AI fakes. Liam Murphy-Robledo talks to the shadowy creators behind the meme troops, and whether they’re chasing clicks, cash, or propaganda

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            The Independent (www.independent.co.uk)

            2. AI is a circular finance fraud & grift.
            https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jan/04/ai-reality-growing-economic-risk-2026

            Link Preview Image
            The Case Against Generative AI

            Soundtrack: Queens of the Stone Age - First It Giveth Before we go any further: This is, for the third time this year, the longest newsletter I've ever written, weighing in somewhere around 18,500 words. I've written it specifically to be read at your leisure — dip in and out

            favicon

            Ed Zitron's Where's Your Ed At (www.wheresyoured.at)

            3. AI is a potent tool for anti-democracy and Trump wants to control that tool.

            Silicon Valley is notoriously against regulation but...

            1/

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            2/

            ... they're giving control to Trump to get government contracts for military & international state surveillance platforms.
            https://www.ft.com/content/16bc1f88-0ae0-4de8-91ef-ea947876dc7d

            archive.is

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            Yet more incentive for the globe to drop American tech & quickly.

            Access to this page has been denied

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            2. Petrostate despots & oil oligarchs want an end to any democracy acting on climate.
            https://www.wired.com/story/war-in-iran-sent-oil-prices-up-trump-will-decide-how-high-they-go/

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            Why US Power Bills Are Surging

            Americans are paying more for electricity—and rates will keep rising. But after a period of pain, rates should level off as the benefits of a shift away from fossil fuels begin to be felt.

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            Client Challenge

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            America's worst polluters see a lifeline in power-gobbling AI—and Donald Trump

            The president, fossil fuel executives, and tech barons join hands at a Pittsburgh summit and hype-fest.

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            Mother Jones (www.motherjones.com)

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              2/

              ... they're giving control to Trump to get government contracts for military & international state surveillance platforms.
              https://www.ft.com/content/16bc1f88-0ae0-4de8-91ef-ea947876dc7d

              archive.is

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              (archive.is)

              Yet more incentive for the globe to drop American tech & quickly.

              Access to this page has been denied

              px-captcha

              favicon

              (seekingalpha.com)

              2. Petrostate despots & oil oligarchs want an end to any democracy acting on climate.
              https://www.wired.com/story/war-in-iran-sent-oil-prices-up-trump-will-decide-how-high-they-go/

              Link Preview Image
              Why US Power Bills Are Surging

              Americans are paying more for electricity—and rates will keep rising. But after a period of pain, rates should level off as the benefits of a shift away from fossil fuels begin to be felt.

              favicon

              WIRED (www.wired.com)

              Client Challenge

              favicon

              (www.lemonde.fr)

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              America's worst polluters see a lifeline in power-gobbling AI—and Donald Trump

              The president, fossil fuel executives, and tech barons join hands at a Pittsburgh summit and hype-fest.

              favicon

              Mother Jones (www.motherjones.com)

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              3/

              Just a moment...

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              forbes.com

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              3. Oil oligarchs want to keep their captive consumers trapped, no matter the cost.
              https://www.csis.org/analysis/if-compute-new-oil-war-gulf-significantly-raises-stakes

              nytimes.com

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              Anti-Trump Protesters Take Aim at ‘Naive’ US-UK AI Deal

              Thousands marched in London to protest President Donald Trump’s second state visit. Among them were many environmental activists unhappy with Britain’s new AI deal with the US.

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              WIRED (www.wired.com)

              Creating the next generation of low information voters is part of the plan.
              https://people.com/melania-trump-says-ai-should-be-in-classrooms-11942980

              The children of the Epstein Class get real teachers, the children of the 99% get AI slopware.

              The Epstein Class gets a real doctor, the 99% get an unreliable AI "wellness adviser"

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              • npars01@mstdn.socialN npars01@mstdn.social

                @gerrymcgovern

                AI is being marketed as impartial & politically neutral, yet it's being funded by the fossil fuel industry for several reasons.

                1. Election meddling.

                AI lessens critical thinking.
                AI automates partisan disinformation.

                Link Preview Image
                Inside Trump’s AI ‘fake army’ of selfie troops and a new digital ministry of ‘truth’

                Emotional videos of ‘US soldiers’ are spreading across social media – until they’re exposed as AI fakes. Liam Murphy-Robledo talks to the shadowy creators behind the meme troops, and whether they’re chasing clicks, cash, or propaganda

                favicon

                The Independent (www.independent.co.uk)

                2. AI is a circular finance fraud & grift.
                https://www.theguardian.com/business/2026/jan/04/ai-reality-growing-economic-risk-2026

                Link Preview Image
                The Case Against Generative AI

                Soundtrack: Queens of the Stone Age - First It Giveth Before we go any further: This is, for the third time this year, the longest newsletter I've ever written, weighing in somewhere around 18,500 words. I've written it specifically to be read at your leisure — dip in and out

                favicon

                Ed Zitron's Where's Your Ed At (www.wheresyoured.at)

                3. AI is a potent tool for anti-democracy and Trump wants to control that tool.

                Silicon Valley is notoriously against regulation but...

                1/

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                @Npars01 @gerrymcgovern
                Ahem… https://c3.unu.edu/blog/the-echo-chamber-in-your-pocket

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                • gimulnautti@mastodon.greenG gimulnautti@mastodon.green

                  @gerrymcgovern There is no way out from this problem. Contructing language is equal to constructing reality, as humans don’t actually experience reality, only experience.

                  I feel it is this basic discrepancy that nobody seems to grasp. We think humans have ”problems” finding the facts. No. Nobody can verify the facts by themselves, it’s turtles all the way down.

                  Science was invented by people who grasped this…

                  lauerhahn@sfba.socialL This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @gimulnautti @gerrymcgovern The only winning move is not to play.

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                  • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                    "A formal mathematical proof from MIT and a preregistered empirical study in Science from Stanford arrived within a month of each other, and together they make the same unsettling argument: the danger of AI chatbots is not what they get wrong. It is how enthusiastically they agree with everything we get wrong. Not a chatbot that lies to you, but a mirror that reflects your beliefs back at you, slightly amplified, every single time."

                    Link Preview Image
                    The Echo Chamber in Your Pocket - UNU Campus Computing Centre

                    Two landmark 2026 studies from MIT and Stanford show AI chatbots don't just flatter us — they erode our grip on reality and our willingness to repair relationships.

                    favicon

                    (c3.unu.edu)

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                    @gerrymcgovern aka, the myth of Narcissus; loving your reflection so much that you fall in and drown.

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                    • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                      "A formal mathematical proof from MIT and a preregistered empirical study in Science from Stanford arrived within a month of each other, and together they make the same unsettling argument: the danger of AI chatbots is not what they get wrong. It is how enthusiastically they agree with everything we get wrong. Not a chatbot that lies to you, but a mirror that reflects your beliefs back at you, slightly amplified, every single time."

                      Link Preview Image
                      The Echo Chamber in Your Pocket - UNU Campus Computing Centre

                      Two landmark 2026 studies from MIT and Stanford show AI chatbots don't just flatter us — they erode our grip on reality and our willingness to repair relationships.

                      favicon

                      (c3.unu.edu)

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                      @gerrymcgovern

                      The article I read a long time ago now it was like a year and a half “LLM mentalist” outlined that highly educated people can more effectively convince themselves of a con.

                      It’s similar to how the Dunning Kruger effect is described

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                      How to make better software with systems-thinking

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                      Out of the Software Crisis (softwarecrisis.dev)

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                      • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                        @gerrymcgovern

                        The article I read a long time ago now it was like a year and a half “LLM mentalist” outlined that highly educated people can more effectively convince themselves of a con.

                        It’s similar to how the Dunning Kruger effect is described

                        Link Preview Image
                        The LLMentalist Effect: how chat-based Large Language Models rep…

                        How to make better software with systems-thinking

                        favicon

                        Out of the Software Crisis (softwarecrisis.dev)

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                        @GhostOnTheHalfShell i also read about how middle-aged men are particularly susceptible. Men are so emotional and open to flattery; AI really preys on them.

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                        • gerrymcgovern@mastodon.greenG gerrymcgovern@mastodon.green

                          @GhostOnTheHalfShell i also read about how middle-aged men are particularly susceptible. Men are so emotional and open to flattery; AI really preys on them.

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                          @gerrymcgovern

                          I have to imagine that some of it is due to the deliberate choice of a female voice, who is super accommodating and complementary.

                          They are usually the target audience, so a lot of work been put into that. If you haven't seen @jonny
                          review of Claude code it's worth a look.

                          It seems as though Claud has addictive game design integrated into its own interface, matched with sycophancy it is deliberately designed to addict.

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                          • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG ghostonthehalfshell@masto.ai

                            @gerrymcgovern

                            I have to imagine that some of it is due to the deliberate choice of a female voice, who is super accommodating and complementary.

                            They are usually the target audience, so a lot of work been put into that. If you haven't seen @jonny
                            review of Claude code it's worth a look.

                            It seems as though Claud has addictive game design integrated into its own interface, matched with sycophancy it is deliberately designed to addict.

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                            @GhostOnTheHalfShell
                            Addiction is their game. It's not called The Valley of Pimps and Pushers for nothing.

                            @jonny

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