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"I just found out that it's been hallucinating numbers this entire time."

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  • 0x0ddc0ffee@infosec.exchange0 This user is from outside of this forum
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    @Natasha_Jay I suspect that one of the few applications where a heavily hallucinating LLM can outperform a human would be in replacing board members, C-suite executives, and their direct reports. I propose a longitudinal study with a control group of high level executives using real data, and experimental group using hallucinated, or maybe even totally random data filtered into plausible ranges, using executive compensation deltas as the metric.

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    • drahardja@sfba.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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      @Natasha_Jay This part in the original post is fantastic:

      “The worst part I raised concerns about needing validation in November and got told I was slowing down innovation.”

      hxxps://www.reddit.com/r/analytics/comments/1r4dsq2/we_just_found_out_our_ai_has_been_making_up/

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      • epic_null@infosec.exchangeE epic_null@infosec.exchange

        @Natasha_Jay I hope they find they have grounds to sue the creator of the AI agent. And that they do so.

        Honetsly, it should not be on non-technical people to realize this shit is bullshit - those selling the bullshit should be held accountable for intentionally misleading their customers.

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        @Epic_Null @Natasha_Jay That's bad, but honestly--switching to a new system without ever double checking anything?

        Everyone involved should be fired, including the #AI

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          @Natasha_Jay if it had no tool to even get said data to begin with, it's even funnier

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          • cmthiede@social.vivaldi.netC cmthiede@social.vivaldi.net

            @Natasha_Jay you get what you pay for

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            @cmthiede @Natasha_Jay You get no more than what you pay for. In this case, probably less.

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            • yakyunightowl@mastodon.worldY This user is from outside of this forum
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              @Natasha_Jay It sounds a lot like a baseball analytics department full of charlatans working for an easy mark.

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              • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                @Natasha_Jay

                I think it is safe to say that we have achieved the heat death of the Internet

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                • kaito02@mastodon.socialK This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @Natasha_Jay if the shareholders want to see big numbers it's just better to give them the big numbers /jk

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                  • powerfromspace1@mstdn.socialP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @Natasha_Jay grounded human will be needed for oversight for quiet some time

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                    • ghostonthehalfshell@masto.aiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @dropbear @Natasha_Jay

                      SHOCKED I TELL YOU

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                      • xethos@mastodon.xethos.netX This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @Natasha_Jay "Here's what a functional company's numbers would look like"

                        Unfortunately, these are not *your* company's numbers

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                        • foolishowl@social.coopF This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @Natasha_Jay This offers a glimmer of hope that the managerial class may self-destruct without doing too much more damage to the rest of us.

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                            @dropbear @Natasha_Jay

                            By the way, always delighted to see what is to my understanding a classic prank Auzzies play on tourists

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                              @Natasha_Jay @wendynather the "making up plausible shit" machine once again made up plausible shit, continually surprising everyone

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                                @Natasha_Jay

                                Source is here for anyone interested in it

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                                • ferrix@mastodon.onlineF ferrix@mastodon.online

                                  @Natasha_Jay @wendynather the "making up plausible shit" machine once again made up plausible shit, continually surprising everyone

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                                  @ferrix @Natasha_Jay @wendynather "Making up plausible shit" is a human consultant's job! AI is going to replace us!

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                                    @Natasha_Jay

                                    No one should be surprised.

                                    It is mathematically impossible to stop an LLM from “hallucinating” because “hallucinating” is what LLMs are doing 100% of the time.

                                    It’s only human beings who distinguish (ideally) between correct and incorrect synthetic text.

                                    And yet, it’s like forbidden candy to a child. Even well educated, thoughtful people so desperately want to believe that this tech “works”

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                                    • maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizzaM maccruiskeen@social.linux.pizza

                                      @ferrix @Natasha_Jay @wendynather "Making up plausible shit" is a human consultant's job! AI is going to replace us!

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                                      @maccruiskeen @Natasha_Jay @wendynather MUPSaaS

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                                        @Natasha_Jay "To an artificial mind, all reality is virtual."

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                                        • 0x0ddc0ffee@infosec.exchange0 0x0ddc0ffee@infosec.exchange

                                          @Natasha_Jay I suspect that one of the few applications where a heavily hallucinating LLM can outperform a human would be in replacing board members, C-suite executives, and their direct reports. I propose a longitudinal study with a control group of high level executives using real data, and experimental group using hallucinated, or maybe even totally random data filtered into plausible ranges, using executive compensation deltas as the metric.

                                          npars01@mstdn.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @0x0ddc0ffee @Natasha_Jay

                                          Remember who funds Ai.
                                          https://www.al-monitor.com/originals/2024/05/saudi-prince-alwaleed-bin-talal-invests-elon-musks-24b-ai-startup

                                          https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2025/05/13/trump-tech-execs-riyadh/

                                          forbes.com

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                                          Disaster Capitalists -- they want another bubble bursting that sends another generation of wealth upwards to the 1%

                                          Global financial crashes & mass dissatisfaction provides the makings for fascist movements & profitable imperialist wars of extraction.

                                          https://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2025/09/03/austerity-is-the-midwife-of-fascism/

                                          Just a moment...

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                                          What will it take to beat the far right?

                                          The far right feeds on economic despair and exclusion. Only policies that deliver security, dignity and belonging can starve it

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