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  • dinobelbo@mastodon.onlineD dinobelbo@mastodon.online

    @Microplastics101 @autistics @actuallyadhd

    My problem is *my own* voice. When I'm wearing earplugs and talk it always sounds like I'm shouting. I need something that dampens outside sounds without amplifying my own.

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    @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd Thats tougher. i wind up speaking quieter which annoys other people 😁 There must be a noise canceling tech thats adjustable. ill be interested to hear whats out there. industry normaly just tries to save your hearing while allowing communication in noisy environments. subtle is not on the agenda.

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    • qurlyjoe@mstdn.socialQ qurlyjoe@mstdn.social

      @dinobelbo
      Oh, just looked at your profile. Sorry, Costco doesn’t do London, I think. Never mind.

      @autistics @actuallyadhd

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      @qurlyjoe @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd Fellow British bat-eared autistic reporting - there *are* Costcos in the UK (including a few outer London locations) although IDK how much product overlap there is with North America! Which is annoying given their membership model...

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      • shinybat@zeroes.caS shinybat@zeroes.ca

        @qurlyjoe @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd Fellow British bat-eared autistic reporting - there *are* Costcos in the UK (including a few outer London locations) although IDK how much product overlap there is with North America! Which is annoying given their membership model...

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        @shinybat
        I’m curious about whether they’ll have hearing aids there. Until a year or so ago they were only available by prescription here, now you can get them OTC which is what Costco does. They were rated 2nd best of all sources here, with our Veterans Administration being first. No idea how that compares to UK.

        @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd

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        • funbreaker@bark.wolp.chatF funbreaker@bark.wolp.chat

          Maybe you can try the Flare Audio Calmer line? https://www.flareaudio.com/en-us/products/calmer These help take the edge off when the kids in the suite upstairs of my office start doing music lessons.

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          @funbreaker @autistics @actuallyadhd

          I'm going to do that very soon (I have a pair now) and report back!

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          • microplastics101@mstdn.socialM microplastics101@mstdn.social

            @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd Thats tougher. i wind up speaking quieter which annoys other people 😁 There must be a noise canceling tech thats adjustable. ill be interested to hear whats out there. industry normaly just tries to save your hearing while allowing communication in noisy environments. subtle is not on the agenda.

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            @Microplastics101 @autistics @actuallyadhd

            That's exactly what happens to me. Last night I almost ended up fighting with my partner: "Speak louder FFS" "I can't with my plugs on, this is as loud as I can get!"
            Then I gave up, took the earplugs off for the next hour, enjoyed *some* conversation and eventually came home that I was very nervous.

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            • dinobelbo@mastodon.onlineD dinobelbo@mastodon.online

              @autistics @actuallyadhd

              Does anyone know if there's a type of earplugs that can reduce the noise without amplifying your own voice? I don't really care about sound quality for this, I just want to be able to have a conversation in a bar without freaking out at the end of the night. (I don't have many alternative places to socialise in my area that aren't super loud unfortunately.)

              Any suggestions?

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              @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd I don't think that's possible. Its not actually amplifying your own voic,e which is being conducted through your bones and you're hearing that all the time, it's just blocking everything else out so it *seems* louder. You could try active noise cancelling headphones with a voice passthrough function. In theory, that will block the noise, but let human voice frequencies though, I'm not sure how well they work in practice, though.

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              • dinobelbo@mastodon.onlineD dinobelbo@mastodon.online

                @Microplastics101 @autistics @actuallyadhd

                That's exactly what happens to me. Last night I almost ended up fighting with my partner: "Speak louder FFS" "I can't with my plugs on, this is as loud as I can get!"
                Then I gave up, took the earplugs off for the next hour, enjoyed *some* conversation and eventually came home that I was very nervous.

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                @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd must be a small noise meter that can give a visual of how loud you are in a given environment. if not its a great business idea 😁

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                • microplastics101@mstdn.socialM microplastics101@mstdn.social

                  @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd must be a small noise meter that can give a visual of how loud you are in a given environment. if not its a great business idea 😁

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                  @Microplastics101 @autistics @actuallyadhd

                  Eh, I'm under the impression that (neurotypical) people in this country actually like to be drowned in noise. They have a weird approach to socialisation.

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                  • dinobelbo@mastodon.onlineD dinobelbo@mastodon.online

                    @autistics @actuallyadhd

                    Does anyone know if there's a type of earplugs that can reduce the noise without amplifying your own voice? I don't really care about sound quality for this, I just want to be able to have a conversation in a bar without freaking out at the end of the night. (I don't have many alternative places to socialise in my area that aren't super loud unfortunately.)

                    Any suggestions?

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                    @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd some people like Flares ear plugs but I dis not find they cancelled noise enough.

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                    • niamhgarvey@mastodon.ieN niamhgarvey@mastodon.ie

                      @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd some people like Flares ear plugs but I dis not find they cancelled noise enough.

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                      @niamhgarvey @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd
                      I carry flare audio plugs for loud noisy environments. They don't mitigate volume, but somehow help with cross-talk and background noise. e.g., at a convention it _felt_ easier to converse with my friend.

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                      • dinobelbo@mastodon.onlineD dinobelbo@mastodon.online

                        @autistics @actuallyadhd

                        Does anyone know if there's a type of earplugs that can reduce the noise without amplifying your own voice? I don't really care about sound quality for this, I just want to be able to have a conversation in a bar without freaking out at the end of the night. (I don't have many alternative places to socialise in my area that aren't super loud unfortunately.)

                        Any suggestions?

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                        @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd
                        Yes. Musicians ear plugs.

                        Surprisingly, the trick is to have them very deep. This means they need to be custom made. You need to go to an audiologist and have them made from a mold of your ear that the audiologist can make.

                        They are not cheap!

                        Made for singers and the like. Had some many years ago. They stop fitting after a number of years as your ear changes shape.

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                        • null_hypothesis@mas.toN null_hypothesis@mas.to

                          @niamhgarvey @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd
                          I carry flare audio plugs for loud noisy environments. They don't mitigate volume, but somehow help with cross-talk and background noise. e.g., at a convention it _felt_ easier to converse with my friend.

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                          @null_hypothesis @niamhgarvey @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd

                          The Flare Calmer's don't block noise, they filter it so conversation stands out from the background din.

                          By definition, if it blocks outside noise, it's going to amplify your own voice back to you. I don't know the science at all, just speaking from experience with many, MANY types of ear plugs over the years.

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                          • barefootrambling@autistics.lifeB barefootrambling@autistics.life

                            @null_hypothesis @niamhgarvey @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd

                            The Flare Calmer's don't block noise, they filter it so conversation stands out from the background din.

                            By definition, if it blocks outside noise, it's going to amplify your own voice back to you. I don't know the science at all, just speaking from experience with many, MANY types of ear plugs over the years.

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                            @barefootrambling @niamhgarvey @dinobelbo @autistics
                            Seems like sound blockers let you sense what goes in our heads. Our brain likely negotiates the sensory input of both “bone" conduction with the regular world. Earplugs put us in a novel situation, so the ‘head echo’ is noticeable. I think that is how the electric (BT) headphones do the noise cancellation, by listening and using the input to block extra noise.

                            (Bone conduction is likely a simplistic euphemism for a lot of stuff.)

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                            • null_hypothesis@mas.toN null_hypothesis@mas.to

                              @barefootrambling @niamhgarvey @dinobelbo @autistics
                              Seems like sound blockers let you sense what goes in our heads. Our brain likely negotiates the sensory input of both “bone" conduction with the regular world. Earplugs put us in a novel situation, so the ‘head echo’ is noticeable. I think that is how the electric (BT) headphones do the noise cancellation, by listening and using the input to block extra noise.

                              (Bone conduction is likely a simplistic euphemism for a lot of stuff.)

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                              @null_hypothesis @barefootrambling @niamhgarvey @autistics

                              Yes, the negotiation is very noticeable with the earplugs on, in fact it makes it hard speaking in turns because my own voice will drown everything else and I can't tell if someone is speaking at the same time as me.

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                              • dinobelbo@mastodon.onlineD dinobelbo@mastodon.online

                                @autistics @actuallyadhd

                                Does anyone know if there's a type of earplugs that can reduce the noise without amplifying your own voice? I don't really care about sound quality for this, I just want to be able to have a conversation in a bar without freaking out at the end of the night. (I don't have many alternative places to socialise in my area that aren't super loud unfortunately.)

                                Any suggestions?

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                                @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd i have the flare audio ones with a -10db insert thing - they are better than regular earplugs - not that much quieter overall but filter harsh noise like traffic and crowds quite well
                                Doesn't entirely fix the your own voice seeming louder issue, but i think its less so that other ones ive tried

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                                • dinobelbo@mastodon.onlineD dinobelbo@mastodon.online

                                  @autistics @actuallyadhd

                                  Does anyone know if there's a type of earplugs that can reduce the noise without amplifying your own voice? I don't really care about sound quality for this, I just want to be able to have a conversation in a bar without freaking out at the end of the night. (I don't have many alternative places to socialise in my area that aren't super loud unfortunately.)

                                  Any suggestions?

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                                  @dinobelbo @autistics @actuallyadhd Loop has some that I use for playing my bagpipes, called “Experience”. I think they are marketed for concerts and so on. I can hear enough to get by in a close conversation and they quiet the standing waves and out-of-tune harmonics so I don’t lose my mind when I’m playing pipes with others.

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