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  • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

    Dystopia Status Level: ADS IN BOOKS 😡

    My dear readers, you can leave Amazon, I promise. Even reducing Amazon usage helps, but *especially* for books. There are alternatives.

    Here's how to find them:
    https://susankayequinn.com/how-to-buy-sues-books-a-guide-to-retailers

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    @susankayequinn I am all for the alternatives, but there are no ads imbedded in amazon ebooks.

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    • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

      Dystopia Status Level: ADS IN BOOKS 😡

      My dear readers, you can leave Amazon, I promise. Even reducing Amazon usage helps, but *especially* for books. There are alternatives.

      Here's how to find them:
      https://susankayequinn.com/how-to-buy-sues-books-a-guide-to-retailers

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      @susankayequinn

      It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife - and of a VPN service he can trust. That's where Nord VPN comes in.

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      • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

        Dystopia Status Level: ADS IN BOOKS 😡

        My dear readers, you can leave Amazon, I promise. Even reducing Amazon usage helps, but *especially* for books. There are alternatives.

        Here's how to find them:
        https://susankayequinn.com/how-to-buy-sues-books-a-guide-to-retailers

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        @susankayequinn
        Weird! Even for Spamazon!
        I stopped with them just because I got tired of babysitting their shipping.
        Made $10 last year off my own books - go wide, my friends, go wide!

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        • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

          Dystopia Status Level: ADS IN BOOKS 😡

          My dear readers, you can leave Amazon, I promise. Even reducing Amazon usage helps, but *especially* for books. There are alternatives.

          Here's how to find them:
          https://susankayequinn.com/how-to-buy-sues-books-a-guide-to-retailers

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          @susankayequinn I don't disagree with the sentiment, but what is the Amazon connection here? Are you saying Amazon inserted this text without the Author's permission? That the same book bought elsewhere doesn't include it?

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          • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

            @susankayequinn I am all for the alternatives, but there are no ads imbedded in amazon ebooks.

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            @farbel first, you don't know that; second, they're *already* putting chatbots in the ebooks; third, Amazon has a long long LONG history of just rolling out stuff in small batch trials to see how it floats; fourth, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was AI accidentally left in the ebook by a shitty AI enthusiast author; fifth, people have OPENLY talked about ads in ebooks FOREVER; sixth, if this is none of the above, wait a minute, that will change.

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            • nicklockwood@mastodon.socialN nicklockwood@mastodon.social

              @susankayequinn I don't disagree with the sentiment, but what is the Amazon connection here? Are you saying Amazon inserted this text without the Author's permission? That the same book bought elsewhere doesn't include it?

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              @nicklockwood Amazon has already put chatbots inside their ebooks, and the threat to put ads in ebooks is longstanding (by Amazon, it's not Kobo out here saying "hey, you know what, what if we put ads in literally every square inch of everything"). I don't know the provenance of this example — for all I know it's the author lazily using AI; or it's spoof — but I know this is where everything is headed and getting of Amazon is the right approach, and start now.

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              • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                Dystopia Status Level: ADS IN BOOKS 😡

                My dear readers, you can leave Amazon, I promise. Even reducing Amazon usage helps, but *especially* for books. There are alternatives.

                Here's how to find them:
                https://susankayequinn.com/how-to-buy-sues-books-a-guide-to-retailers

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                @susankayequinn Literally just yesterday I learned about Terry Pratchett's German publisher inserting soup ads into The Light Fantastic back in the 90s and I thought "oh that's so gross, surely nobody will ever do that again" 😬

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                • joshsutphin@wandering.shopJ joshsutphin@wandering.shop

                  @susankayequinn Literally just yesterday I learned about Terry Pratchett's German publisher inserting soup ads into The Light Fantastic back in the 90s and I thought "oh that's so gross, surely nobody will ever do that again" 😬

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                  Back in the 90s (starting with Moving Pictures) Terry Pratchett (yet to be knighted) changed his German publisher. A rather radical move in the market for someone who had been published by Heyne for a dozen books to raising sales. I remember reading it in the Jahrbuch der Science Fiction and Fantasy 1994 (Annual of…

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                  @joshsutphin OH MY GOD

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                  • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                    @joshsutphin OH MY GOD

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                    @susankayequinn @joshsutphin don’t know, if I break some illusion here, but for a long long time, there has been product placements in literature. Way before computer era. Probably as long as there has been entertainment books on market. (Sadly only found ai generated shit when trying to get actual link to prove this 😒)

                    Of course, that one is pretty obvious and sloppy, unlike those Stephen Kings Bud lights, Camels, etc in his books (just one known author to mention). Every time you read an actual product name (specially, if the hero is using it), it is pretty probably paid mention.

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                    • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                      @farbel first, you don't know that; second, they're *already* putting chatbots in the ebooks; third, Amazon has a long long LONG history of just rolling out stuff in small batch trials to see how it floats; fourth, I wouldn't be at all surprised if this was AI accidentally left in the ebook by a shitty AI enthusiast author; fifth, people have OPENLY talked about ads in ebooks FOREVER; sixth, if this is none of the above, wait a minute, that will change.

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                      @susankayequinn First, I read a LOT of books on my aging kindle and have NEVER seen an ad. Second, nor have I ever seen a chatbot. Third, I don't know one single other person who has seen an ad or chatbot in an Amazon ebook. Your fourth point, I might believe, but that is not indicative of anything Amazon is doing other than allowing people to publish AI drek. Fifth, talk is talk. Sixth, everything changes, but that doesn't make your reposted meme true.

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                      • joshsutphin@wandering.shopJ joshsutphin@wandering.shop

                        @susankayequinn Literally just yesterday I learned about Terry Pratchett's German publisher inserting soup ads into The Light Fantastic back in the 90s and I thought "oh that's so gross, surely nobody will ever do that again" 😬

                        Link Preview Image
                        Terry Pratchett and the Maggi Soup Adverts

                        Back in the 90s (starting with Moving Pictures) Terry Pratchett (yet to be knighted) changed his German publisher. A rather radical move in the market for someone who had been published by Heyne for a dozen books to raising sales. I remember reading it in the Jahrbuch der Science Fiction and Fantasy 1994 (Annual of…

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                        @joshsutphin @susankayequinn that was also my first thought since I owned a book with such an ad and I remember being really confused and weirded out by it back then…
                        (Not sure if it was Terry Pratchett or some other book by the same publisher)

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                        • jannepekkala@mementomori.socialJ jannepekkala@mementomori.social

                          @susankayequinn @joshsutphin don’t know, if I break some illusion here, but for a long long time, there has been product placements in literature. Way before computer era. Probably as long as there has been entertainment books on market. (Sadly only found ai generated shit when trying to get actual link to prove this 😒)

                          Of course, that one is pretty obvious and sloppy, unlike those Stephen Kings Bud lights, Camels, etc in his books (just one known author to mention). Every time you read an actual product name (specially, if the hero is using it), it is pretty probably paid mention.

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                          @jannepekkala @joshsutphin

                          Somehow I think product placements are different than ads because it's entirely possible the author intentionally put the product name there. I mean, I know *many* aspiring authors who loved to laden their prose with product names, and no one was paying them to do it.

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                          • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

                            @susankayequinn First, I read a LOT of books on my aging kindle and have NEVER seen an ad. Second, nor have I ever seen a chatbot. Third, I don't know one single other person who has seen an ad or chatbot in an Amazon ebook. Your fourth point, I might believe, but that is not indicative of anything Amazon is doing other than allowing people to publish AI drek. Fifth, talk is talk. Sixth, everything changes, but that doesn't make your reposted meme true.

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                            @farbel it's in the kindle app now

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                            Amazon has added a generative AI chatbot to the Kindle app that is supposed to provide information about the book you’re reading.

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                            • farbel@mas.toF farbel@mas.to

                              @susankayequinn First, I read a LOT of books on my aging kindle and have NEVER seen an ad. Second, nor have I ever seen a chatbot. Third, I don't know one single other person who has seen an ad or chatbot in an Amazon ebook. Your fourth point, I might believe, but that is not indicative of anything Amazon is doing other than allowing people to publish AI drek. Fifth, talk is talk. Sixth, everything changes, but that doesn't make your reposted meme true.

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                              @farbel Amazon isn't just "allowing people to publish AI drek" it pushes me to use their AI translators and AI narrators every time I log into the author portal. It's been using AI to summarize and then bury reviews written by humans. It's PUSHING AI SLOP everywhere. It is literally shoving its chatbots into everything.

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                              • susankayequinn@wandering.shopS susankayequinn@wandering.shop

                                @farbel Amazon isn't just "allowing people to publish AI drek" it pushes me to use their AI translators and AI narrators every time I log into the author portal. It's been using AI to summarize and then bury reviews written by humans. It's PUSHING AI SLOP everywhere. It is literally shoving its chatbots into everything.

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                                @susankayequinn Interesting. When I log in, it doesn't do that. I wonder why? My reviews appear to all be there in their original format. I wonder why? I see that chatbot is an option in the app, if, for some odd reason, a reader wants to ask questions about a book instead of just reading it. I have never come across it in my reading, because I don't do that.

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                                • joshsutphin@wandering.shopJ joshsutphin@wandering.shop

                                  @susankayequinn Literally just yesterday I learned about Terry Pratchett's German publisher inserting soup ads into The Light Fantastic back in the 90s and I thought "oh that's so gross, surely nobody will ever do that again" 😬

                                  Link Preview Image
                                  Terry Pratchett and the Maggi Soup Adverts

                                  Back in the 90s (starting with Moving Pictures) Terry Pratchett (yet to be knighted) changed his German publisher. A rather radical move in the market for someone who had been published by Heyne for a dozen books to raising sales. I remember reading it in the Jahrbuch der Science Fiction and Fantasy 1994 (Annual of…

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                                  @joshsutphin @susankayequinn heh, was going to reply with that 🙂

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                                    Makes me crazy that some products simply *can’t* be bought anywhere besides Amazon.
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                                    • joshsutphin@wandering.shopJ joshsutphin@wandering.shop

                                      @susankayequinn Literally just yesterday I learned about Terry Pratchett's German publisher inserting soup ads into The Light Fantastic back in the 90s and I thought "oh that's so gross, surely nobody will ever do that again" 😬

                                      Link Preview Image
                                      Terry Pratchett and the Maggi Soup Adverts

                                      Back in the 90s (starting with Moving Pictures) Terry Pratchett (yet to be knighted) changed his German publisher. A rather radical move in the market for someone who had been published by Heyne for a dozen books to raising sales. I remember reading it in the Jahrbuch der Science Fiction and Fantasy 1994 (Annual of…

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                                      @joshsutphin @susankayequinn Wow. And it seems Heyne Verlag (the ad vandal / publishing house) is still in operation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heyne_Verlag

                                      I wouldn’t have thought you were allowed to piss off both Iain Banks and Terry Pratchett and still keep your book business.

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                                      • joshsutphin@wandering.shopJ joshsutphin@wandering.shop

                                        @susankayequinn Literally just yesterday I learned about Terry Pratchett's German publisher inserting soup ads into The Light Fantastic back in the 90s and I thought "oh that's so gross, surely nobody will ever do that again" 😬

                                        Link Preview Image
                                        Terry Pratchett and the Maggi Soup Adverts

                                        Back in the 90s (starting with Moving Pictures) Terry Pratchett (yet to be knighted) changed his German publisher. A rather radical move in the market for someone who had been published by Heyne for a dozen books to raising sales. I remember reading it in the Jahrbuch der Science Fiction and Fantasy 1994 (Annual of…

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                                        @joshsutphin @susankayequinn *CERVEZA CRISTAL*

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                                        • cmdrmoto@hachyderm.ioC cmdrmoto@hachyderm.io

                                          @joshsutphin @susankayequinn Wow. And it seems Heyne Verlag (the ad vandal / publishing house) is still in operation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heyne_Verlag

                                          I wouldn’t have thought you were allowed to piss off both Iain Banks and Terry Pratchett and still keep your book business.

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                                          @cmdrmoto @joshsutphin wow

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