@paco @BenAveling it is just a stupid electronic device
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@paco Do you have access to the raw data? I'd imagine downloading it and plotting it with your own tooling opens up a lot of options, compared to having to use the routers built-in graphs.
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@paco if the built-in graphs from the router suck, can you export the data via snmp to a network monitoring server? I've previously used LibreNMS and gotten good results. I even was able to observe Patch Tuesday's impacts on my lab network through it (initially via a slight panic as I saw a large amount of data entered the network in the middle of the night when no clients were online)
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@paco I guess you want to customise the main page to either use tags or categories. (my first impression from what you are saying category is the more likely option).
I usually have my library sorted by "Date Added" which works fantastic for all stuff you will add after the initial import.
To make things work as you expect, you might need to write a little script to tag or categorise all your stuff based on the folders they are in.
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@paco I find Jellyfin tricky. I even reorganized my TV library to suit its convention, and it still wonʼt pick everything up.
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@paco I guess you want to customise the main page to either use tags or categories. (my first impression from what you are saying category is the more likely option).
I usually have my library sorted by "Date Added" which works fantastic for all stuff you will add after the initial import.
To make things work as you expect, you might need to write a little script to tag or categorise all your stuff based on the folders they are in.
@sheogorath I’m going to have to figure out how to tag from the CLI. Didn’t realise that was a thing.
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@paco @infuse is the way on Apple TV. Swiftfin is undergoing heavy rework (which as you experienced is required) - https://github.com/jellyfin/Swiftfin/discussions/1294
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@paco if you’ve not changed the default it’ll be pulling Collections from TMDB, e.g. Blacula - https://www.themoviedb.org/collection/201930-blacula-collection
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@paco I find Jellyfin tricky. I even reorganized my TV library to suit its convention, and it still wonʼt pick everything up.
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@paco if you’ve not changed the default it’ll be pulling Collections from TMDB, e.g. Blacula - https://www.themoviedb.org/collection/201930-blacula-collection
@NitP I know how it got it. I just find it funny, but unhelpful, to put them all together.
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@NitP I know how it got it. I just find it funny, but unhelpful, to put them all together.
@paco I think it’s the TMDB box set plugin. If you’re not a fan I think disabling that plugin should give you a flat movie structure.
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@paco I think it’s the TMDB box set plugin. If you’re not a fan I think disabling that plugin should give you a flat movie structure.
@NitP it’s fine. I don’t understand why you keep making suggestions. There’s no problem. I mentioned that it was funny several times. I’m not trying to fix this, I’m just openly musing on it. There are things I want to fix, but collections aren’t it. I understand them.
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@NitP it’s fine. I don’t understand why you keep making suggestions. There’s no problem. I mentioned that it was funny several times. I’m not trying to fix this, I’m just openly musing on it. There are things I want to fix, but collections aren’t it. I understand them.
@paco ah sorry. Just misunderstood your wording that it was unhelpful putting them together - thought it was an issue. I’ll bow out.
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@paco ah sorry. Just misunderstood your wording that it was unhelpful putting them together - thought it was an issue. I’ll bow out.
@NitP Well the unhelpful part is mixing all these things in one screen full of stuff. The problem isn’t that the 2 Blacula films were automatically pulled into a collection. That’s fine and I like it.
The problem is that Blacula is next to Blade Runner, Big Trouble in Little China, and Captain America. I have put effort into organising them all. But the apps (Jellyfin, Swiftfin, Infuse) insist that THEY do the organising. They ignore all the directory structure and just pull all the films out.
They offer alphabetical, (THEIR notion of) genre, by date, by rating, by recently added, etc. But the one way they won’t show me is the way I organised them myself. That is infuriating. So if you have tips on how to get my folder hierarchy in one of these apps, I’m all ears. Plex does it with a bit of effort. I can’t get this view at all on Jellyfin.
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@NitP Well the unhelpful part is mixing all these things in one screen full of stuff. The problem isn’t that the 2 Blacula films were automatically pulled into a collection. That’s fine and I like it.
The problem is that Blacula is next to Blade Runner, Big Trouble in Little China, and Captain America. I have put effort into organising them all. But the apps (Jellyfin, Swiftfin, Infuse) insist that THEY do the organising. They ignore all the directory structure and just pull all the films out.
They offer alphabetical, (THEIR notion of) genre, by date, by rating, by recently added, etc. But the one way they won’t show me is the way I organised them myself. That is infuriating. So if you have tips on how to get my folder hierarchy in one of these apps, I’m all ears. Plex does it with a bit of effort. I can’t get this view at all on Jellyfin.
@paco I don’t really use it as I’m a Neanderthal with all my movies in one folder and shows in another then rely on client side filters.
But I do add my top level ‘media’ folder as a source in Infuse as a favourite (I do not scan or add this folder to the Infuse library). Accessed from the home screen it allows me to browse the folder hierarchy directly (and it maintains metadata - posters, watched status, descriptions etc.). Not sure if that’s what you’re after.
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@paco Well, Jellyfin decided this is the way to go
There is docs about how they expect your media to be structured: https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/server/media/movies
So not only doesn't it care about your hierarchy it even has own expectations about naming.
Not that you have to like it, but I'm just saying this is how they expect you to organise your media.
I'm not sure but you might be able to see your structure in the metadata manager.
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@paco Well, Jellyfin decided this is the way to go
There is docs about how they expect your media to be structured: https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/server/media/movies
So not only doesn't it care about your hierarchy it even has own expectations about naming.
Not that you have to like it, but I'm just saying this is how they expect you to organise your media.
I'm not sure but you might be able to see your structure in the metadata manager.
@sheogorath @paco
Emby has a 'folders' view, if Jellyfin also does you might be able to get that to look the way you want.I gave up on my own file organization/naming; I really never go into the file structure to play movies or music any more. I can use tools to rename based on metadata, and I just make sure the metadata is right.
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@paco Well, Jellyfin decided this is the way to go
There is docs about how they expect your media to be structured: https://jellyfin.org/docs/general/server/media/movies
So not only doesn't it care about your hierarchy it even has own expectations about naming.
Not that you have to like it, but I'm just saying this is how they expect you to organise your media.
I'm not sure but you might be able to see your structure in the metadata manager.
@sheogorath I would be perfectly happy to rename into whatever works best. But the problem is organization. It's flat. They put 500 movies into a single scrollable screen. There is simply no hierarchy. No subdivisions.
I mean, there's a little subdivision at the highest level: "TV show" versus "Movie." And I can do it by "Genre" as long as I either tag all 500 of my films with my idea of genre, or just let them do it.
I think my 500 films is non-trivial, but hardly the biggest collection out there. I'm sure tons of people have more. Do people with 1000 and 2000 videos really just have this one screen with 1000 things on it and then they search? I am baffled to find myself belonging to an insignificant minority on this issue.
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@oldsysops That idea had crossed my mind. I’m going to try that. Thanks.
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@NitP Well the unhelpful part is mixing all these things in one screen full of stuff. The problem isn’t that the 2 Blacula films were automatically pulled into a collection. That’s fine and I like it.
The problem is that Blacula is next to Blade Runner, Big Trouble in Little China, and Captain America. I have put effort into organising them all. But the apps (Jellyfin, Swiftfin, Infuse) insist that THEY do the organising. They ignore all the directory structure and just pull all the films out.
They offer alphabetical, (THEIR notion of) genre, by date, by rating, by recently added, etc. But the one way they won’t show me is the way I organised them myself. That is infuriating. So if you have tips on how to get my folder hierarchy in one of these apps, I’m all ears. Plex does it with a bit of effort. I can’t get this view at all on Jellyfin.
@paco
There is a folder view, which you can activate in Dashboard - Libraries - Display tab - Display a folder view to show plain media folders.This is from a forum post in 2019, I'm away from home unable to verify this at this time, but worth a shot?
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/e7klst/folder_view/
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@paco
There is a folder view, which you can activate in Dashboard - Libraries - Display tab - Display a folder view to show plain media folders.This is from a forum post in 2019, I'm away from home unable to verify this at this time, but worth a shot?
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/jellyfin/comments/e7klst/folder_view/
@toucheatout I'm fairly sure that view has been removed. I came across some recent (2024) debates and discussions on the Jellyfin forums. It definitely seems like the developers don't expect anyone to do any organization of their media at all.
