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Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

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  • glynmoody@mastodon.socialG glynmoody@mastodon.social

    @mike I imagine most people do this, I certainly do...

    oilheap@infosec.exchangeO This user is from outside of this forum
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    @glynmoody @mike I imagine most average people just click "Accept all" without a second thought because it gets them to the content. "Informed consent" this is not!

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    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

      I wonder how many others do this.

      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

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      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

      friedemannlietz@mastodon.socialF This user is from outside of this forum
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      @mike same

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      • oilheap@infosec.exchangeO oilheap@infosec.exchange

        @glynmoody @mike I imagine most average people just click "Accept all" without a second thought because it gets them to the content. "Informed consent" this is not!

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        #21

        @oilheap indeed @mike

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        • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

          @glynmoody I wonder whether sites that don't have a Deny All button have any idea how much business they're losing.

          steeph@todon.euS This user is from outside of this forum
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          #22

          @mike @glynmoody They might. It's an easy statistic to create. But us closing the site is the point if such popups, isn't it? We would create traffic that doesn't produce sellable data. Sure, it's a black and white view on the issue. But in general that is why there is no obvious deny all option.

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          • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

            Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

            If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

            But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

            I wonder how many others do this.

            And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

            —
            UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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            #23

            @mike Very much what I do. If I cannot say "no" with a click, I will tend not to bother.

            I even do this at work - where I might be searching for something quite specific, but I am still not accepting sites which are desperate for me to let them know who I am.

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            • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

              @jokeyrhyme Yes, exactly. Under what circumstances would any informed person EVER do anything other than Deny All?

              gim@lou.ltG This user is from outside of this forum
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              #24

              @mike @jokeyrhyme there were mentions/news last year, that things (regulation-wise) will be simplified - for end-users that is I'm not sure where/how that ended though.

              Btw, I'm aware that's not the solution to malicious compliance, but Consent-o-matic add-on usually does the job well.

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              • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                I wonder how many others do this.

                And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                —
                UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                inmod@mastodon.socialI This user is from outside of this forum
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                @mike you still get cookies pop-ups?

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                • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                  Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                  If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                  But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                  I wonder how many others do this.

                  And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                  —
                  UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                  soveryoleary@mstdn.socialS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #26

                  @mike Same. except first I try to bypass it entirely by hitting “Show Reader” button if available

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                  • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                    Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                    If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                    But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                    I wonder how many others do this.

                    And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                    —
                    UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                    pthane@toot.walesP This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #27

                    @mike
                    Yup, me too.
                    Also wtf is 'legitimate interest'?

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                    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                      I wonder how many others do this.

                      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                      —
                      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                      #28

                      @mike

                      Yes. If there is no button labelled ‘Reject All’ or ‘Accept Only Necessary,’ then it's goodbye.

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                      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                        @glynmoody I wonder whether sites that don't have a Deny All button have any idea how much business they're losing.

                        osma@mas.toO This user is from outside of this forum
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                        #29

                        They're not losing business. Their business is to sell tracked impressions to surveillance vendors, so deny all and a lost reader are both worth nothing.
                        @mike @glynmoody

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                        • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                          Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                          If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                          But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                          I wonder how many others do this.

                          And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                          —
                          UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                          dziadekmick@mstdn.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          dziadekmick@mstdn.social
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                          #30

                          @mike

                          Me too.

                          And I turn back on sites which give me the MAYBE LATER option instead of NO.

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                          • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                            Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                            If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                            But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                            I wonder how many others do this.

                            And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                            —
                            UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                            #31

                            @mike yes, this is what I do. At first I stressed over the “should I or shouldn’t I” decisions, then just decided I didn’t need that in my life, and that turned out to be correct 😅

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                            • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                              Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                              If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                              But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                              I wonder how many others do this.

                              And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                              —
                              UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                              oneinthevillage@mstdn.caO This user is from outside of this forum
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                              oneinthevillage@mstdn.ca
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                              #32

                              @mike

                              I will not view a site if reject all isn’t available

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                              • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                I wonder how many others do this.

                                And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                —
                                UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                                yacc143@mastodon.socialY This user is from outside of this forum
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                                #33

                                @mike More or less, I'm not religious about it, but yes, I'm also noticing a strong "I don't bother attitude".

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                                • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                  Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                  If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                  But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                  I wonder how many others do this.

                                  And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                  —
                                  UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                                  dalias@hachyderm.ioD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #34

                                  @mike The worst slimy pattern is doing this with a complicated preferences panel that, when you finally click "save preferences", puts up a box saying there was an error saving preferences and kicks you back to the start. Instant nope. Breaking law, attempting plausible deniability, exploiting sunk cost fallacy.

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                                  • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                    Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                    If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                    But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                    I wonder how many others do this.

                                    And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                    —
                                    UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

                                    meznor@mstdn.socialM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #35

                                    @mike I definitely do this (but I also go down their stupid UI-nightmare rabbit hole to see if I have options first, and usually it’s buried in there somewhere).

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                                    • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                      Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                      If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                      But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                      I wonder how many others do this.

                                      And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                      —
                                      UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #36

                                      @mike
                                      i admit too often im too curious and still do the extra clicks to get to the content and sometimes, which is also way too often, i also click „accept all“

                                      the most important fact:

                                      „we care about privacy“ is a lie if it’s coming in a cookie banner.

                                      who really cares about privacy can do real necessary cookies without additional banner.
                                      who does it anyway deserves no click at all - not reject all, not extra preferences settings, and least accept all

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                                      • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                        Over the last few weeks I have noticed a behaviour in myself.

                                        If I follow a link and I get a "We care about your privacy" popup, I click the "Reject all" button and read the article.

                                        But if there is no "Reject all" button, just a link to a complicated set of preferences, I simply close the window and never see what the article had to say.

                                        I wonder how many others do this.

                                        And how many web-sites are losing A LOT of their traffic for this reason.

                                        —
                                        UPDATE: see replies, lots of people do this!

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                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #37

                                        @mike I also often skip websites that try to make me jump through privacy hoops.

                                        If they don't honor my browser's signals for global privacy preference (as well as the older do-not-track) then F-'em.

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                                        • mike@sauropods.winM mike@sauropods.win

                                          @jokeyrhyme Yes, exactly. Under what circumstances would any informed person EVER do anything other than Deny All?

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                                          #38

                                          @mike @jokeyrhyme when the deny all is behind a 5€ per month subscription

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