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This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

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  • not3ottersinacoat@mastodon.socialN not3ottersinacoat@mastodon.social

    @nik @argv_minus_one @fuchsiii @malwareminigun I boosted because this is important but if you want to engage with people you could try being a little less rude.

    nik@toot.teckids.orgN This user is from outside of this forum
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    @not3ottersinacoat

    Blocked for unwarranted tone-policing.

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    • not3ottersinacoat@mastodon.socialN not3ottersinacoat@mastodon.social

      @nik @argv_minus_one @fuchsiii @malwareminigun I boosted because this is important but if you want to engage with people you could try being a little less rude.

      fuchsiii@oxytodon.comF This user is from outside of this forum
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      @not3ottersinacoat @nik @argv_minus_one @malwareminigun The best explanation of someone who knows a bit more about GDPR stuff than I do: https://fosstodon.org/@wizzwizz4/116550568863635746

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      • not3ottersinacoat@mastodon.socialN not3ottersinacoat@mastodon.social

        @nik @argv_minus_one @fuchsiii @malwareminigun I boosted because this is important but if you want to engage with people you could try being a little less rude.

        fuchsiii@oxytodon.comF This user is from outside of this forum
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        @not3ottersinacoat @nik @argv_minus_one @malwareminigun (for the record)

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        • malwareminigun@infosec.exchangeM malwareminigun@infosec.exchange

          @nik I’m guessing they don’t want the liability of COPA and similar Acts. 😟

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          @malwareminigun @nik It’s the opposite. Part of the reason tech companies are lobbying for age verification laws is to get themselves out from under COPPA

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          • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

            This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

            Now, I am calling for #openSUSE to revert the recently imposed project-wide ban on young people:

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            (Update: Thanks for the overwhelming reactions! Please also consider https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116550879189375534 .)

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            I am surprised about the interest in this issue. Thanks!

            Please consider two things:

            * Communicate to the openSUSE project directly that, and why, you oppose. You could respond on the mailing list I linked.
            * If you can, become a sponsor of @Teckids on Liberapay or through some other means, so we can handle such cases and help other projects with our experience in a more coordinated and less stressful way: https://liberapay.com/Teckids/

            Thanks!

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              @karhima @nik It is not on any docs I could find.

              If you try to create a Fedora Account it shows this (at least in Spain).

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              • nik@toot.teckids.orgN nik@toot.teckids.org

                This evening has had a sad surprise for me.

                Now, I am calling for #openSUSE to revert the recently imposed project-wide ban on young people:

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                (lists.opensuse.org)

                (Update: Thanks for the overwhelming reactions! Please also consider https://toot.teckids.org/@nik/116550879189375534 .)

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                @nik SuSE is driving towards slop addiction anyway. Better for kids to experiment with Gentoo or NetBSD, or maybe projects that maintain a good track record without having a strong no-slop policy like FreeBSD, Slackware, OpenBSD, Debian, etc. (Although if they get into Slackware, keep them away from IRC, or at least Libera. ##slackware on Libera.chat today is like #freebsd on Freenode was a decade ago, in some respects, and maybe worse in others.)

                Having been a young hacker in the early 80s, I can lend you some comfort. People can and will become lifelong free software advocates and contributors without a community, and this includes community driven by a corporate project.

                Also, look at it this way: If OpenSuSE wants to drive themselves to extinction, what better way than erasing their mindshare amongst the young?

                All that aside, I'm not at all against people telling them how foolish this move is.

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                • mason@partychickens.netM mason@partychickens.net

                  @nik SuSE is driving towards slop addiction anyway. Better for kids to experiment with Gentoo or NetBSD, or maybe projects that maintain a good track record without having a strong no-slop policy like FreeBSD, Slackware, OpenBSD, Debian, etc. (Although if they get into Slackware, keep them away from IRC, or at least Libera. ##slackware on Libera.chat today is like #freebsd on Freenode was a decade ago, in some respects, and maybe worse in others.)

                  Having been a young hacker in the early 80s, I can lend you some comfort. People can and will become lifelong free software advocates and contributors without a community, and this includes community driven by a corporate project.

                  Also, look at it this way: If OpenSuSE wants to drive themselves to extinction, what better way than erasing their mindshare amongst the young?

                  All that aside, I'm not at all against people telling them how foolish this move is.

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                  @mason @nik Any source for SUSE and slop?

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                  • richlv@mastodon.socialR richlv@mastodon.social

                    @mason @nik Any source for SUSE and slop?

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                    @richlv @nik My primary reason for believing this isn't something that was published, but that's okay, as there are other sources:

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                    There are a number of pieces out there talking about SUSE chasing "AI" as well, and remember that OpenSuSE is quite heavy driven by SUSE the same way Fedora is driven by Red Hat. It's not complete in either case but it's substantial. (Canonical doesn't drive Debian quite so much, but it's developers are still influential activists inside of Debian.)

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                    • fuchsiii@oxytodon.comF fuchsiii@oxytodon.com

                      @fionasboots IP addresses according to GDPR a definitively PII, static or not. That your ISP can link it to your person is enough. But according to @nik what I quoted only counts for data collection that needs consent, which this use apparently does not. @malwareminigun

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                      @fuchsiii @fionasboots @nik @malwareminigun But the ISP for a landline doesn't link the IP to a kid.
                      On the other hand, the mobile phone network operator...

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