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  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

    As I say in the post, if you're in the UK *please* write to your MP about this.

    Don't just pontificate online. Write a short email to your MP and tell them you disagree with NHS England's decision to shut down all their Open Source code.

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    @Edent

    Is the @openrightsgroup going to pick this up? This seems to be within their remit or no? (This question is for the ORG and not the OP.)

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      @Edent

      Is the @openrightsgroup going to pick this up? This seems to be within their remit or no? (This question is for the ORG and not the OP.)

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      @celesteh @Edent @openrightsgroup Never "are <local digital rights group> going to pick this up?" Maybe. But they're always underfinanced and understaffed and already have tons to do.

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      • sqrt2@chaos.socialS sqrt2@chaos.social

        @celesteh @Edent @openrightsgroup Never "are <local digital rights group> going to pick this up?" Maybe. But they're always underfinanced and understaffed and already have tons to do.

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        @sqrt2 @Edent @openrightsgroup

        Good point, thank you.

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        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

          ๐Ÿ†• blog! โ€œNHS Goes To War Against Open Sourceโ€

          The NHS is preparing to close nearly all of its Open Source repositories.

          Throughout my time working for the UK Government - in GDS, NHSX, i.AI, and others - I championed Open Source. I spoke to dozens of departments about it, wrote guidance still in use today, and briefed Ministers on why it was soโ€ฆ

          ๐Ÿ‘€ Read more: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/05/nhs-goes-to-war-against-open-source/
          โธป
          #government #nhs #OpenSource #politics

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          @Edent Ask yourself (I am not English) do they really want to be under U.S. control? ๐Ÿค”

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          • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

            ๐Ÿ†• blog! โ€œNHS Goes To War Against Open Sourceโ€

            The NHS is preparing to close nearly all of its Open Source repositories.

            Throughout my time working for the UK Government - in GDS, NHSX, i.AI, and others - I championed Open Source. I spoke to dozens of departments about it, wrote guidance still in use today, and briefed Ministers on why it was soโ€ฆ

            ๐Ÿ‘€ Read more: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/05/nhs-goes-to-war-against-open-source/
            โธป
            #government #nhs #OpenSource #politics

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            @Edent Thank you for highlighting this, and without any unnecessary hyperbole!

            A hugely retrograde step; I'll certainly be writing to my MP on the matter.

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            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

              ๐Ÿ†• blog! โ€œNHS Goes To War Against Open Sourceโ€

              The NHS is preparing to close nearly all of its Open Source repositories.

              Throughout my time working for the UK Government - in GDS, NHSX, i.AI, and others - I championed Open Source. I spoke to dozens of departments about it, wrote guidance still in use today, and briefed Ministers on why it was soโ€ฆ

              ๐Ÿ‘€ Read more: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/05/nhs-goes-to-war-against-open-source/
              โธป
              #government #nhs #OpenSource #politics

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              @Edent Ugh. Where I work itโ€™s even worse โ€“ very little has ever been open sourced, but at least it was easy to share code internally. Recently our internal Gitlab has been reconfigured to remove the ability to set repos to โ€œpublicโ€ (anyone on the network) or โ€œprotectedโ€ (anyone signed into Gitlab), and only allow โ€œprivateโ€ (specific people or groups). Not just โ€œdefault closedโ€, but โ€œonly closedโ€.

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              • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                ๐Ÿ†• blog! โ€œNHS Goes To War Against Open Sourceโ€

                The NHS is preparing to close nearly all of its Open Source repositories.

                Throughout my time working for the UK Government - in GDS, NHSX, i.AI, and others - I championed Open Source. I spoke to dozens of departments about it, wrote guidance still in use today, and briefed Ministers on why it was soโ€ฆ

                ๐Ÿ‘€ Read more: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/05/nhs-goes-to-war-against-open-source/
                โธป
                #government #nhs #OpenSource #politics

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                @Edent

                Perhaps Palantir have given Streeting a big lump of money, and told him they don't like open source?

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                • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                  ๐Ÿ†• blog! โ€œNHS Goes To War Against Open Sourceโ€

                  The NHS is preparing to close nearly all of its Open Source repositories.

                  Throughout my time working for the UK Government - in GDS, NHSX, i.AI, and others - I championed Open Source. I spoke to dozens of departments about it, wrote guidance still in use today, and briefed Ministers on why it was soโ€ฆ

                  ๐Ÿ‘€ Read more: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/05/nhs-goes-to-war-against-open-source/
                  โธป
                  #government #nhs #OpenSource #politics

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                  @Edent Even with the recent Copy Fail exploit being revealed, this is an extreme measure, to put it mildly.

                  #FOSS #Linux

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                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                    ๐Ÿ†• blog! โ€œNHS Goes To War Against Open Sourceโ€

                    The NHS is preparing to close nearly all of its Open Source repositories.

                    Throughout my time working for the UK Government - in GDS, NHSX, i.AI, and others - I championed Open Source. I spoke to dozens of departments about it, wrote guidance still in use today, and briefed Ministers on why it was soโ€ฆ

                    ๐Ÿ‘€ Read more: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/05/nhs-goes-to-war-against-open-source/
                    โธป
                    #government #nhs #OpenSource #politics

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                    @Edent good thing they are all archived in @swheritage https://archive.softwareheritage.org/browse/search/?q=GitHub.com%2Fnhse&with_visit=true&with_content=true

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                    • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                      As I say in the post, if you're in the UK *please* write to your MP about this.

                      Don't just pontificate online. Write a short email to your MP and tell them you disagree with NHS England's decision to shut down all their Open Source code.

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                      @Edent I don't see anything in the article about writing to your MP. ๐Ÿ˜”

                      But I've done so anyway. And echoed your concerns at https://danq.me/nhs-england-rushes-to-hide-software-over-ai-hacking-fears

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                      • walrus@toot.walesW walrus@toot.wales

                        @Edent

                        Perhaps Palantir have given Streeting a big lump of money, and told him they don't like open source?

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                        @Walrus

                        An overly-cynical take maybe, but open source and open data was heavily promoted at a time when public sector data and code was largely locked away in organisational silos.

                        Today, alongside open repositories, those assets reside on US-owned cloud platforms (accessible under the Cloud Act) and is routinely shared with analytics specialists like Palantir under contract

                        If those actors already have access then there is some monopoly benefit in denying access to everyone else.

                        @Edent

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                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                          As I say in the post, if you're in the UK *please* write to your MP about this.

                          Don't just pontificate online. Write a short email to your MP and tell them you disagree with NHS England's decision to shut down all their Open Source code.

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                          @Edent although I no longer live in the UK, as a citizen I still elect my MP, so later today I will write to them about it

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                          • q@glauca.spaceQ q@glauca.space

                            @Edent although I no longer live in the UK, as a citizen I still elect my MP, so later today I will write to them about it

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                            @q Much appreciated!

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                            • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                              As I say in the post, if you're in the UK *please* write to your MP about this.

                              Don't just pontificate online. Write a short email to your MP and tell them you disagree with NHS England's decision to shut down all their Open Source code.

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                              @Edent is this something where non English MPs would still be able to help as it will be devolved?

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                              • otfrom@functional.cafeO otfrom@functional.cafe

                                @Edent is this something where non English MPs would still be able to help as it will be devolved?

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                                @otfrom I do not know. Health is devolved but, on some matters, they do take the lead from their colleagues in England.
                                I suggest writing to both your MP and MSP ๐Ÿ˜€

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                                • walrus@toot.walesW walrus@toot.wales

                                  @Edent

                                  Perhaps Palantir have given Streeting a big lump of money, and told him they don't like open source?

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                                  @Walrus conspiratorial thinking rarely helps. You can peruse his entry in the Register of Members' Interests if you want to look for evidence.

                                  The truth is likely to be much less exciting - I suspect a manager somewhere has gotten spooked & thinks this will help.

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                                  • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                    ๐Ÿ†• blog! โ€œNHS Goes To War Against Open Sourceโ€

                                    The NHS is preparing to close nearly all of its Open Source repositories.

                                    Throughout my time working for the UK Government - in GDS, NHSX, i.AI, and others - I championed Open Source. I spoke to dozens of departments about it, wrote guidance still in use today, and briefed Ministers on why it was soโ€ฆ

                                    ๐Ÿ‘€ Read more: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/05/nhs-goes-to-war-against-open-source/
                                    โธป
                                    #government #nhs #OpenSource #politics

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                                    โ€œThere are thousands of NHS repositories on GitHub. The work undertaken to assess all of them and then close them will be massive. And for what?โ€

                                    โ€œEven if we ignore the impracticality of closing all the code - it is too late! All that code has already been slurped up. If Mythos really is the ultimate hacker, hiding the code now does nothing. It has likely already retained copies of the repositories.โ€
                                    โ€And if it were both practical and effective to hide source code - that doesn't matter. These AI tools are just as effective against closed-source. They can analyse binaries and probe websites with ease.โ€
                                    โ€œThere are tens of thousands of NHS website pages which refer to their GitHub repos - will they all need to be updated? What's the cost of that?โ€

                                    @Edent

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                                    • nicol@social.coopN nicol@social.coop

                                      โ€œThere are thousands of NHS repositories on GitHub. The work undertaken to assess all of them and then close them will be massive. And for what?โ€

                                      โ€œEven if we ignore the impracticality of closing all the code - it is too late! All that code has already been slurped up. If Mythos really is the ultimate hacker, hiding the code now does nothing. It has likely already retained copies of the repositories.โ€
                                      โ€And if it were both practical and effective to hide source code - that doesn't matter. These AI tools are just as effective against closed-source. They can analyse binaries and probe websites with ease.โ€
                                      โ€œThere are tens of thousands of NHS website pages which refer to their GitHub repos - will they all need to be updated? What's the cost of that?โ€

                                      @Edent

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                                      โ€œI've no idea what led to NHS England making this retrograde decision - so I've send a Freedom of Information request to find out.
                                      I am convinced that closing all their excellent open source work is the wrong move for the NHS. I hope they see sense and reverse course.โ€
                                      โ€œUntil then, I've helped make sure that every single NHS repository has been backed up and, because the software licence permits it, can be re-published if the original is closed.โ€
                                      ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘ @Edent

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                                      • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                        @otfrom I do not know. Health is devolved but, on some matters, they do take the lead from their colleagues in England.
                                        I suggest writing to both your MP and MSP ๐Ÿ˜€

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                                        @Edent I'll see what I can do. I'll have some new MSPs next week

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                                        • edent@mastodon.socialE edent@mastodon.social

                                          ๐Ÿ†• blog! โ€œNHS Goes To War Against Open Sourceโ€

                                          The NHS is preparing to close nearly all of its Open Source repositories.

                                          Throughout my time working for the UK Government - in GDS, NHSX, i.AI, and others - I championed Open Source. I spoke to dozens of departments about it, wrote guidance still in use today, and briefed Ministers on why it was soโ€ฆ

                                          ๐Ÿ‘€ Read more: https://shkspr.mobi/blog/2026/05/nhs-goes-to-war-against-open-source/
                                          โธป
                                          #government #nhs #OpenSource #politics

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                                          @Edent this will be the Palantir influence. Disgraceful and sad.

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