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The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

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  • nathanael@exquisite.socialN nathanael@exquisite.social

    @fdroidorg @marcprux why is @GrapheneOS not listed? this feels a little bit like fearmongering

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    #95

    @nathanael @GrapheneOS Custom Android distros are not affected because they care about the freedom of their users.

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    • oldherl@comfy.socialO oldherl@comfy.social

      @fdroidorg@floss.social I live in China. We don't have representatives to contact. Even Google doesn't provide service to users here directly. Please do NOT show the useless header to users from China. I love F-Droid and FOSS in general but the header would be useless and annoying.

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      #96

      @oldherl The little X will dismiss it, if annoying 😛

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      • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

        The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

        If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

        https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

        We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

        Thank you for your support!

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        #97

        @Framasoft est- ce que çà concerne uniquement l'Os Android "Google"? Ou est-ce que ce sera valable pour toures les version Android " degoogleisées" comme lineageOs ou /e/os par exemple ?

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        • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

          @nathanael @GrapheneOS Custom Android distros are not affected because they care about the freedom of their users.

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          #98

          @fdroidorg not sure i get what you're saying. we shouldn't support grapheneos cause they are not affected?!

          Support These Projects
          These projects are working to provide much-needed competition in the mobile hardware space.

          cc @GrapheneOS

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          • nathanael@exquisite.socialN nathanael@exquisite.social

            @fdroidorg not sure i get what you're saying. we shouldn't support grapheneos cause they are not affected?!

            Support These Projects
            These projects are working to provide much-needed competition in the mobile hardware space.

            cc @GrapheneOS

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            @nathanael @GrapheneOS We should be allies in the Android ecosystem (specially during these days) but they choose to be frenemies for some reason.

            Fun fact: We talked with more GOS users at FOSDEM than stock Android users. 🤔

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            • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

              @nathanael @GrapheneOS We should be allies in the Android ecosystem (specially during these days) but they choose to be frenemies for some reason.

              Fun fact: We talked with more GOS users at FOSDEM than stock Android users. 🤔

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              #100

              @fdroidorg because they decided to be enemies you don't list them? this is childish. they might have an opinion you don't like. so what? get over it. saying this:

              These projects are working to provide much-needed competition in the mobile hardware space.

              and not listing grapheneos makes you the bad guys in my book...

              @GrapheneOS

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              • jay@mastodon.gamedev.placeJ jay@mastodon.gamedev.place

                @fdroidorg @marcprux

                If Google doesn't want to place nice, I suppose we have options...

                Huawei HarmonyOS: https://www.harmonyos.com/en/
                Samsung TizenOS: https://samsungtizenos.com/

                Perhaps an Android exodus would scare Google enough to backtrack on the registration agenda.

                #KeepAndroidOpen

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                #101

                @jay @fdroidorg @marcprux Yes, but all the Tizen products shown are ones that are NOT phones, and are hard to install your own apps, like fridges, televisions, monitors, washing machines.....?

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                • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                  The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                  If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                  https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                  We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                  Thank you for your support!

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                  #102

                  @fdroidorg @marcprux super chiant ce Google qui vérouile tout.

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                  • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                    @v_d_richards @Preuk https://keepandroidopen.org/ ?

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                    #103

                    @fdroidorg @Preuk

                    Thanks for the link

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                    • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                      @v_d_richards @Preuk https://keepandroidopen.org/ ?

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                      #104

                      @fdroidorg @Preuk

                      I still have problems to understand what happens with apps like those of fossify, or DuckDuckGo for example, that i downloaded and maintain over F-Droid, but that are also available on Playstore and thus should be under the "verified" category.

                      These should still work but not the F-Droid Store App itself so i need to update via a website manually???

                      I am not an IT person. I genuelly have problems understanding this, despite having read the infos i found so far.

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                      • v_d_richards@literatur.socialV v_d_richards@literatur.social

                        @fdroidorg @Preuk

                        I still have problems to understand what happens with apps like those of fossify, or DuckDuckGo for example, that i downloaded and maintain over F-Droid, but that are also available on Playstore and thus should be under the "verified" category.

                        These should still work but not the F-Droid Store App itself so i need to update via a website manually???

                        I am not an IT person. I genuelly have problems understanding this, despite having read the infos i found so far.

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                        #105

                        @v_d_richards If signed by the developer (reproducible) and the developer has submitted to the Google pressure, the app will work fine.

                        If signed by F-Droid, we think they will not work at all, not even our Client, so we will not be able to provide updates.

                        For those apps already on Play you will submit to Google's rules and use Play, right?

                        For those not on Play... good luck tracking the APK, if the developer bowed down.

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                        • v_d_richards@literatur.socialV v_d_richards@literatur.social

                          @fdroidorg @Preuk

                          Thanks for the link

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                          @v_d_richards
                          Abwarten was im September kommt. Kurz vorher allen noch vorhandenen Apps aus dem Playstore ein Update über den Aurorastore verabreichen.
                          Ich bin mal gespannt ob Chuuchel wirklich ihr Android dichtmachen und ob dann rechtliche Schritte von der EU folgen.
                          Ich habe im Moment den Eindruck, die usanistanischen Unternehmen versuchen ihr Geschäftsgebaren mit Rückendeckung der Administration (evtl. Sanktionen o.ä.) gegen die EU durchzusetzen.
                          Es bleibt spannend.

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                          • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                            @v_d_richards If signed by the developer (reproducible) and the developer has submitted to the Google pressure, the app will work fine.

                            If signed by F-Droid, we think they will not work at all, not even our Client, so we will not be able to provide updates.

                            For those apps already on Play you will submit to Google's rules and use Play, right?

                            For those not on Play... good luck tracking the APK, if the developer bowed down.

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                            @fdroidorg

                            I hated Google before, but do more every day.

                            I had hoped that if Apps and their developers took it on them to do the verification shit, loading and maintaining at least such apps from other places than PlayStore would be possible in Android.

                            The users are trapped:
                            Banking Apps and some others don' t work with Custom Roms.
                            Open Source from free places will no longer work on G-Android.

                            The only solution is havingntwo devices which is expensive af.

                            I.hate.Google.so.much.

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                            • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                              The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                              If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                              https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                              We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                              Thank you for your support!

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                              @fdroidorg @barbarakathmann @kimvsparrentak

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                              • m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyzM m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyz

                                @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Android has lost its appeal to me as a target for development. I also may order a Jolla Phone at home point, but I need to be sure that my banking apps work with it.

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                                @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux You can check from https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/18438/235 if your bank is listed. All my banks work, but that of course don't say anything about your bank

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                                • A antti98@mastodon.social

                                  @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux You can check from https://forum.sailfishos.org/t/banking-apps-on-sailfish-os/18438/235 if your bank is listed. All my banks work, but that of course don't say anything about your bank

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                                  @Antti98 @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Thank you! That link helped a lot! 😀

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                                  • m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyzM m2c_n3e@mastodon.xyz

                                    @Antti98 @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux Thank you! That link helped a lot! 😀

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                                    @m2c_n3e @Fynn @fdroidorg @marcprux glad to hear! Out of interest was your bank reported to be working?

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                                    • fdroidorg@floss.socialF fdroidorg@floss.social

                                      The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

                                      If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

                                      https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

                                      We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

                                      Thank you for your support!

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                                      #112

                                      @fdroidorg But I thought “open always wins.” 🤦‍♂️

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                                      • bkoehn@hachyderm.ioB bkoehn@hachyderm.io

                                        @fdroidorg But I thought “open always wins.” 🤦‍♂️

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                                        @bkoehn

                                        #Google when talking in court against #EpicGames "we are open"

                                        Google when talking with #FLOSS devs: "not for you"

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                                        • fisk@little.tinypuppy.dogF fisk@little.tinypuppy.dog
                                          @fdroidorg @marcprux its a good thing actually as the main thing it affects is intimate partner violence stalking and really low hanging fruit malware. you can literally still sideload, you just cant distribute apks anonymously. you can still modify a phone to remove the restriction, just not without the owner noticing, which is the actual point. this is completely out of touch with the reality of the android malware ecosystem, the harm it causes and why they are actually doing this.
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                                          Having to pay a company and send your government id to that company, who will absolutely turn that data over to the government, is not an acceptable way to develop software.

                                          Especially as that government is actively targeting dissenters and anyone who opposes them.

                                          Especially as that company is making plans to go into the PC space, creating computers more locked down than Windows.

                                          Especially as that company already has an 'anti-virus' activated on every Android licensed device by default that flags and prevents these malicious apps.

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