What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media
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What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media
@infobeautiful @ourworldindata
Wonderful. "Draw me a picture of NYTimes propaganda"
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@infobeautiful @ourworldindata why is COVID 2.2% listed below suicide 2.1% ?
@PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
i don't know but i would say that some of those COVID deaths should be classified as homicide or suicide
people who died of COVID who did everything right but were betrayed by a MAGA moron who introduced the disease into their life and killed them
and MAGA morons who essentially committed suicide by COVID because they took no precautions and imagined their prideful ignorance was a magic shield, or just didn't care if they died
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@PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
i don't know but i would say that some of those COVID deaths should be classified as homicide or suicide
people who died of COVID who did everything right but were betrayed by a MAGA moron who introduced the disease into their life and killed them
and MAGA morons who essentially committed suicide by COVID because they took no precautions and imagined their prideful ignorance was a magic shield, or just didn't care if they died
@benroyce @infobeautiful @ourworldindata it would take a magical level of re-observation, but a fair chunk of covid, accidents, and others could be reclassified as "recklessness".
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What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media
@infobeautiful @ourworldindata
does the NYT mostly mirror other outlets that most people get their news from? living near Chicago, I mostly hear about crime from other sources.
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What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media
@infobeautiful @ourworldindata I get what this is saying, but isnt this the old "man bites dog" issue?
Of course the media will report sensational, extraordinary things. This is what people want to hear about.
It's also easier when there are clear villains and victims, and not something abstract like economic forces, infrastructure, or lifestyle. -
@infobeautiful @ourworldindata I get what this is saying, but isnt this the old "man bites dog" issue?
Of course the media will report sensational, extraordinary things. This is what people want to hear about.
It's also easier when there are clear villains and victims, and not something abstract like economic forces, infrastructure, or lifestyle.@DrorBedrack @infobeautiful @ourworldindata I was going to say the same thing. The top 9 bars on the left could all be called "natural causes," or even "old age" if they happen late enough, and add up to over 90%. It's not exactly newsworthy.
But then, I think the problem is that the sensationalism leads to people being easily manipulated by bad actors who use the fears of extreme events to drum up support for harmful policies. If anything, this strikes me as an indictment of for-profit news companies, especially when they're owned by people who benefit from harmful policies.
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What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media
@infobeautiful @ourworldindata The reporting possibly depends on who the problems affected?
My mom dying of cancer vs anyone who might normally be in the news.
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What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media
@infobeautiful @ourworldindata That's the press for you - all sensation and zero truth - or - "keep the peasants distracted while we rob them'...
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What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media
@infobeautiful @ourworldindata
Sensation sells…
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What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media
@infobeautiful @ourworldindata
Of course! And besides the terrorism and homicides the only time the media reports cancer, overdoses, heart disease, etc., is when it happens to a celebrity or other well known person. -
What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media
The data is from 2023, which was during Biden. With the pressure of the #Trump administration in 2025, I imagine the current data to be even more divergent.
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What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media
Graphs of media vs clinical morbidity & mortality tables always fascinate me.
When someone is banging on about "the southern border" and all these other dire threats, and you ask them to list the top ten things they think will put them in the hospital or grave, they almost always list murder in the top three, and the rest of the list is a hodge-podge of silliness.
When you show them for THEIR ethnicity, gender, and age group what actually does, they waffle
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What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media
@infobeautiful @ourworldindata the media is only reporting, “if it bleeds it leads”.
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What Americans die from vs. what's reported in the media
@infobeautiful @ourworldindata
Better be prepared for MAHA and the anti-vaxxers to warp coverage even further from reality.
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Graphs of media vs clinical morbidity & mortality tables always fascinate me.
When someone is banging on about "the southern border" and all these other dire threats, and you ask them to list the top ten things they think will put them in the hospital or grave, they almost always list murder in the top three, and the rest of the list is a hodge-podge of silliness.
When you show them for THEIR ethnicity, gender, and age group what actually does, they waffle
@mloxton @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
Yes, I've had this exact conversation multiple times. Feel like I am talking to cultists after a while.
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@PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
i don't know but i would say that some of those COVID deaths should be classified as homicide or suicide
people who died of COVID who did everything right but were betrayed by a MAGA moron who introduced the disease into their life and killed them
and MAGA morons who essentially committed suicide by COVID because they took no precautions and imagined their prideful ignorance was a magic shield, or just didn't care if they died
@benroyce
They certainly put their bodies and those of their families at risk for the sake of loyalty. -
@infobeautiful @ourworldindata
So:
Eat too much.
Don't exercise enough.
Too much ultra processed food, chemicals and pesticides.What are the causes of the 7.8% Accidents?
How much on the road, power tools, weapons or other?@raymaccarthy @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
Accidents can bleed over into other categories. I know of two coworkers who died commuting that were probably heartattacks/strokes.
BTW, when I think about it, commuting has to be the absolute worst way to die. Dying alone or surrounded by strangers far away from home on a journey you did not want to take.
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@mloxton @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
Yes, I've had this exact conversation multiple times. Feel like I am talking to cultists after a while.
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@benroyce
They certainly put their bodies and those of their families at risk for the sake of loyalty.@mloxton @PizzaDemon @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
killing grandma for the orange god
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@benroyce @infobeautiful @ourworldindata it would take a magical level of re-observation, but a fair chunk of covid, accidents, and others could be reclassified as "recklessness".
@PizzaDemon @benroyce @infobeautiful @ourworldindata
I'm afraid stupidity doesn't count as suicide. It must be your wish to die not the result of your wired beliefs.
About the homicide I could agree.
