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  3. Working in security and doing security door/door access installs with a locksmith and getting into locksport, I've noticed- and maybe it's just a thing local to me- that like 95% of the doors in the world are not installed correctly.

Working in security and doing security door/door access installs with a locksmith and getting into locksport, I've noticed- and maybe it's just a thing local to me- that like 95% of the doors in the world are not installed correctly.

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  • me@social.jlamothe.netM me@social.jlamothe.net

    @riskythinking @deviantollam @alice @brad Good to know that it's not just cybersecurity that works this way.

    Like when the heaviest encryption can be defeated by knowing the answer to "what's your mother's maiden name?"

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    @me yup. Very much like that.

    @deviantollam @riskythinking @brad

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    • brad@m.toad.hostB brad@m.toad.host

      Working in security and doing security door/door access installs with a locksmith and getting into locksport, I've noticed- and maybe it's just a thing local to me- that like 95% of the doors in the world are not installed correctly. Holy shit you guys.

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      @brad true facts 😏πŸšͺ

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        @brad it's true. Most locksmiths and door installers use oversized strike plates because it's easier than fitting them correctly, and customers don't like it when their structure settles and then the door doesn't close properly, so you'd be surprised how many doors don't engage the deadlatch.

        @deviantollam

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        @alice @brad absolute agree

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        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

          @brad it's true. Most locksmiths and door installers use oversized strike plates because it's easier than fitting them correctly, and customers don't like it when their structure settles and then the door doesn't close properly, so you'd be surprised how many doors don't engage the deadlatch.

          @deviantollam

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          @alice @brad @deviantollam

          I have a stop on my route that got broken into through their roll up door windows. they installed an electronic alarm system. then 2 weeks later when I tried to leave the front door wouldn't latch. the strike plate had been shimmed closer to the door latch badly and it required multiple slammings to get it to latch. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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          • coolcalmcollected@mastodon.socialC coolcalmcollected@mastodon.social

            @alice @brad @deviantollam

            I have a stop on my route that got broken into through their roll up door windows. they installed an electronic alarm system. then 2 weeks later when I tried to leave the front door wouldn't latch. the strike plate had been shimmed closer to the door latch badly and it required multiple slammings to get it to latch. πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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            @coolcalmcollected @alice @deviantollam My wife's print studio just had a guy install a commercial double door and put the surface latch on the wrong side of the door- It doesn't lock anything and its accessible from the outside ΰ² _ΰ² 

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            • brad@m.toad.hostB brad@m.toad.host

              @coolcalmcollected @alice @deviantollam My wife's print studio just had a guy install a commercial double door and put the surface latch on the wrong side of the door- It doesn't lock anything and its accessible from the outside ΰ² _ΰ² 

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              @brad @alice @deviantollam

              oh my god

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              • coolcalmcollected@mastodon.socialC coolcalmcollected@mastodon.social

                @brad @alice @deviantollam

                oh my god

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                @coolcalmcollected @alice @deviantollam Don't worry, they also installed a second surface latch on the inside as well for what I'm sure are reasons. They marked the hole in the door frame for it to slide into but never cut the hole. We found out about this because the building manager was like "Hey, your door has been open for 3 days"

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                • brad@m.toad.hostB brad@m.toad.host

                  @coolcalmcollected @alice @deviantollam My wife's print studio just had a guy install a commercial double door and put the surface latch on the wrong side of the door- It doesn't lock anything and its accessible from the outside ΰ² _ΰ² 

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                  @brad @coolcalmcollected @alice holy cow!

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                  • brad@m.toad.hostB brad@m.toad.host

                    Working in security and doing security door/door access installs with a locksmith and getting into locksport, I've noticed- and maybe it's just a thing local to me- that like 95% of the doors in the world are not installed correctly. Holy shit you guys.

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                    @brad

                    the worst i've seen was a new subdivision where all the french doors were installed over a couple of days. they sent an junior person to do it. all were installed upside down, which made them non-functional. they had to redo all the doors (probably not much better but at least right side up).

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                    • deviantollam@defcon.socialD deviantollam@defcon.social

                      @alice @brad absolute agree

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                      @deviantollam I think I actually learned that bit of trivia from you πŸ˜‹

                      @brad

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                      • brad@m.toad.hostB brad@m.toad.host

                        @coolcalmcollected @alice @deviantollam My wife's print studio just had a guy install a commercial double door and put the surface latch on the wrong side of the door- It doesn't lock anything and its accessible from the outside ΰ² _ΰ² 

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                        @brad oof!

                        @coolcalmcollected @deviantollam

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                        • brad@m.toad.hostB brad@m.toad.host

                          Working in security and doing security door/door access installs with a locksmith and getting into locksport, I've noticed- and maybe it's just a thing local to me- that like 95% of the doors in the world are not installed correctly. Holy shit you guys.

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                          @brad

                          Don't count on it, reminds me of the story of an airline pilot, he loved reading the papers (read them good and well) except about aviation where he always found errors.

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                            @brad

                            Don't count on it, reminds me of the story of an airline pilot, he loved reading the papers (read them good and well) except about aviation where he always found errors.

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                            @hnapel That's the Gell-Man Amnesia Principle

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                            Gell-Mann Amnesia

                            Michael Crichton coined the term Gell-Mann Amnesia effect to describe forgetting how unreliable a source is in one area when you trust it in another area.

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                            John D. Cook | Applied Mathematics Consulting (www.johndcook.com)

                            CC: @brad

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                            • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

                              @hnapel That's the Gell-Man Amnesia Principle

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                              Gell-Mann Amnesia

                              Michael Crichton coined the term Gell-Mann Amnesia effect to describe forgetting how unreliable a source is in one area when you trust it in another area.

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                              John D. Cook | Applied Mathematics Consulting (www.johndcook.com)

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                              @ColinTheMathmo @hnapel Angela Collier also has an incredible video on this.
                              Also, if anything, I think I'm experiencing the opposite of that. Now that I am aware of how a door should work, I'm seeing how much nobody seems to do it correctly

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                              • brad@m.toad.hostB brad@m.toad.host

                                @ColinTheMathmo @hnapel Angela Collier also has an incredible video on this.
                                Also, if anything, I think I'm experiencing the opposite of that. Now that I am aware of how a door should work, I'm seeing how much nobody seems to do it correctly

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                                @brad This is exactly the effect. Without specialist knowledge, things seem OK. Now that you *have* specialist knowledge, everything seems incompetent.

                                CC: @hnapel

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                                • colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyzC colinthemathmo@mathstodon.xyz

                                  @brad This is exactly the effect. Without specialist knowledge, things seem OK. Now that you *have* specialist knowledge, everything seems incompetent.

                                  CC: @hnapel

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                                  @ColinTheMathmo @hnapel Yeah I think I confused myself somewhere in there

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                                  • brad@m.toad.hostB brad@m.toad.host

                                    @ColinTheMathmo @hnapel Yeah I think I confused myself somewhere in there

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                                    @ColinTheMathmo @hnapel yeah, reading this back I truly have no idea what I was thinking there lol

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                                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                      @deviantollam I think I actually learned that bit of trivia from you πŸ˜‹

                                      @brad

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                                      @alice @brad πŸ˜ŠπŸ‘πŸšͺ

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