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I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop.

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  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

    I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

    Should you use alt-text? Yes!

    Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

    Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

    Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

    Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

    But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

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    @alice @altbot

    Basically telling other people how they should be using Mastodon is not cool unless they are violating some instance rule.

    You always have the option of muting them or blocking them so you don't have to endure whatever offense you perceive they are perpetrating.

    Now, fully realize telling people not to tell people how to use Mastodon is kind of telling people how to use Mastodon. So it's a conundrum, but generally agree with Alice. Please don't be a Mastodon HOA enforcer.

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    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

      I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

      Should you use alt-text? Yes!

      Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

      Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

      Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

      Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

      But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

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      @alice @altbot THANK YOU VERY MUCH 🙌

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      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

        I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

        Should you use alt-text? Yes!

        Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

        Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

        Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

        Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

        But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

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        @alice @altbot

        thank you

        there are voices on the fediverse that speak with rank entitlement

        they believe they can approach someone, treat them poorly, and get something out of them

        no

        you act nicely, you act kind, you say thank you

        and you may change their behavior

        you also may not

        but if you treat someone poorly, you definitely won't change their behavior

        some of you out there:

        think about where this massive sense of entitlement you have comes from

        and fix it

        please and thank you

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        • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

          @alice @altbot

          thank you

          there are voices on the fediverse that speak with rank entitlement

          they believe they can approach someone, treat them poorly, and get something out of them

          no

          you act nicely, you act kind, you say thank you

          and you may change their behavior

          you also may not

          but if you treat someone poorly, you definitely won't change their behavior

          some of you out there:

          think about where this massive sense of entitlement you have comes from

          and fix it

          please and thank you

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          @benroyce

          I have only ever done this once, and even then I didn't yell. A Tooter asked for their toot to be boosted, however the image didn't have alt text and my reply was that I would love to boost the toot, however, without alt text I couldn't and then explained about screen readers etc.

          The Tooter put alt text on and I boosted!

          All the others who just post without alt text? Likes and replies only.

          @alice @altbot

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          • alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA alexadeswift@lgbtqia.space

            @benroyce

            I have only ever done this once, and even then I didn't yell. A Tooter asked for their toot to be boosted, however the image didn't have alt text and my reply was that I would love to boost the toot, however, without alt text I couldn't and then explained about screen readers etc.

            The Tooter put alt text on and I boosted!

            All the others who just post without alt text? Likes and replies only.

            @alice @altbot

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            @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

            that's the way to do it! 💪 😤

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            • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

              @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

              that's the way to do it! 💪 😤

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              @benroyce

              I try my best, unfortunately autism sometimes can get in the way and make me act like an arsehole though! 😬😈

              @alice @altbot

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              • alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA alexadeswift@lgbtqia.space

                @benroyce

                I try my best, unfortunately autism sometimes can get in the way and make me act like an arsehole though! 😬😈

                @alice @altbot

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                @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

                you have nothing to explain to me. i can be a major asshole 😂

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                  @Mikal yeah, good rule of thumb is to try to be helpful, not haughty.

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

                    Should you use alt-text? Yes!

                    Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

                    Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

                    Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

                    Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

                    But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

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                    @alice @altbot

                    It's been pointed out a couple of times that I'd forgotten to add alt-text. I fixed it and appreciated that it had been brought to my attention. One person who corrected me was visually impaired and had every right to.

                    Those people were polite and I feel they were right for letting me know. That being said, I have seen snarky alt-text nazis and they really do suck.

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                    • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                      @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

                      you have nothing to explain to me. i can be a major asshole 😂

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                      @benroyce

                      Major Arsehole and Big Shit goes together like Peaches & Cream, and can be very cathartic when targeted with surgical precision!

                      @alice @altbot

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                      • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                        I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

                        Should you use alt-text? Yes!

                        Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

                        Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

                        Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

                        Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

                        But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

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                        @alice @altbot May I offer you a feature request in these trying times?
                        https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/26464

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                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                          I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

                          Should you use alt-text? Yes!

                          Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

                          Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

                          Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

                          Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

                          But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

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                          @alice @altbot@fuzzies.wtf

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                          • benroyce@mastodon.socialB benroyce@mastodon.social

                            @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

                            you have nothing to explain to me. i can be a major asshole 😂

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                            @benroyce @alexadeswift ah Fedi, bringing unintentional assholes together since 2016 🥰

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                            • alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA alexadeswift@lgbtqia.space

                              @benroyce

                              I have only ever done this once, and even then I didn't yell. A Tooter asked for their toot to be boosted, however the image didn't have alt text and my reply was that I would love to boost the toot, however, without alt text I couldn't and then explained about screen readers etc.

                              The Tooter put alt text on and I boosted!

                              All the others who just post without alt text? Likes and replies only.

                              @alice @altbot

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                              @alexadeswift
                              I occasionally come across posts without any text that I would love to boost, and so I take this approach. Because it's true that I would love to boost it but I won't if there's no alt text.

                              I'm often not the only one. And sometimes there will be a commenter that maybe even made an attempt to supply the original poster with alt text. It's generally been quite effective (except in maybe two cases I'm aware of)

                              I'm only mean or degrading to people when they've explicitly asked for it (usually in a kink context).
                              @benroyce @alice @altbot

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                              • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                @benroyce @alexadeswift ah Fedi, bringing unintentional assholes together since 2016 🥰

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                                @alice

                                So so true 🤩

                                @benroyce

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                                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                  I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

                                  Should you use alt-text? Yes!

                                  Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

                                  Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

                                  Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

                                  Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

                                  But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

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                                  @altbot @alice altbot is AI slop and makes things worse for everyone.

                                  Aye to the rest. alt4me is great.

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                                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                    @benroyce @alexadeswift ah Fedi, bringing unintentional assholes together since 2016 🥰

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                                    @alice @benroyce @alexadeswift hm? I heard my name?

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                                    • alexadeswift@lgbtqia.spaceA alexadeswift@lgbtqia.space

                                      @benroyce

                                      Major Arsehole and Big Shit goes together like Peaches & Cream, and can be very cathartic when targeted with surgical precision!

                                      @alice @altbot

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                                      @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

                                      the trick is knowing when to apply which

                                      i've been guilty of delivering the vinegar when a little honey would be more effective, and vice versa

                                      we learn to know which is better, but it's an art not a science

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                                      • h3mmy@lgbtqia.spaceH h3mmy@lgbtqia.space

                                        @alexadeswift
                                        I occasionally come across posts without any text that I would love to boost, and so I take this approach. Because it's true that I would love to boost it but I won't if there's no alt text.

                                        I'm often not the only one. And sometimes there will be a commenter that maybe even made an attempt to supply the original poster with alt text. It's generally been quite effective (except in maybe two cases I'm aware of)

                                        I'm only mean or degrading to people when they've explicitly asked for it (usually in a kink context).
                                        @benroyce @alice @altbot

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                                        @h3mmy @alexadeswift @alice @altbot

                                        i did not see the alt text scenario derived consensual roleplay coming, but i'm howling that it did

                                        "and what is that? a picture of a snail? you know what the snail is doing, the dirty thing, dirty like you. beg to write it out. be specific! do you want to please me? show me your submission... no not like that i mean hit submit on the comment with the alt text"

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                                        • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                                          I don't know who needs to hear this, but if you're yelling at a person on Fedi for not using #AltText, stop. Please.

                                          Should you use alt-text? Yes!

                                          Should you boost posts without alt-text? No!

                                          Should you yell at companies and bots who don't use alt-text? Fuck yeah!

                                          Should you try your best to make Fedi a more accessible, and safe place for everyone—including those who have trouble writing alt-text? Of course.

                                          Should you mention @altbot or #Alt4Me *occasionally* so folx know they're both wonderful tools that can help make Fedi a more inclusive place? It would be impolite not to.

                                          But—and let me make this clear—don't be a dick to folx who forget alt-text, or who have trouble writing it for whatever reason; it's not very punk of you.

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                                          @alice At least once have I just not posted something because describing the image in any meaningful way would've been quite a task.
                                          Though nowadays I'll post it anyway, perhaps I should call in helpers in those cases in the future.

                                          Getting yelled at for not being able to do something definitely pushes people away.

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