Did someone do a #neovim-fork before it got #SlopCode added to it?
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@kkarhan Vim also fell to the slopcode now, but this is a recent thing; NeoVim started chasing fads since it forked, Vim only started recently, years after its original creator passed away and someone else had to pick up the torch. But the culture around vanilla Vim for most of its life wasn't one of chasing fads, it was one of avoiding them. I know I'm probably high on hopium pills right now but there just isn't anything else like Vim around to switch to, and even neovim just wasn't it
@reiddragon well, @mrmasterkeyboard did #fork #vim at the last pre - #vommit point of the #git...
- It's known as
evi, which I think is a good name...- Maybe someday we get like
nevi(basicallyneovimon #evi basis)...
- Maybe someday we get like
Cuz I wish for that to happen, not only because I want to see a better #neovim but also because we better become more #intolerant to the #intolerable #Enshittification!
- If we don't take a hard stance against #AIslop and #vommits (aka. *"#vibeCode|d #commits) we'll end up with a #TechStack out of shit, piss, diharrea and spit that is *unsalvageable!
- Some may think that makes me a "#Hardliner" but I'd rather have my few principles than being a #sellout!
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@reiddragon well, @mrmasterkeyboard did #fork #vim at the last pre - #vommit point of the #git...
- It's known as
evi, which I think is a good name...- Maybe someday we get like
nevi(basicallyneovimon #evi basis)...
- Maybe someday we get like
Cuz I wish for that to happen, not only because I want to see a better #neovim but also because we better become more #intolerant to the #intolerable #Enshittification!
- If we don't take a hard stance against #AIslop and #vommits (aka. *"#vibeCode|d #commits) we'll end up with a #TechStack out of shit, piss, diharrea and spit that is *unsalvageable!
- Some may think that makes me a "#Hardliner" but I'd rather have my few principles than being a #sellout!
@kkarhan @mrmasterkeyboard yeah, I know about it, I'm currently discussing details about the fork with NND in #evi on OFTC
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@kkarhan @mrmasterkeyboard yeah, I know about it, I'm currently discussing details about the fork with NND in #evi on OFTC
@reiddragon @kkarhan imagine, we build an NEVi mode into EVi... just like :nevi?
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@reiddragon @kkarhan imagine, we build an NEVi mode into EVi... just like :nevi?
@mrmasterkeyboard @reiddragon I mean, that would be cool based upon the command it's called up.
evi: basicallyvimminus #AIslop.- Basically loads the
init.vim(like #vim does) configuration file and moves on from there`
- Basically loads the
nevi: basicallyneovimminus #AI #slop.- Loads the
init.luaconfiguration like #neovim would.
- Loads the
neville: basically something to add/removeNvChador other preconfigs.- In case someone wants to switch things...
It would also make it convienient to go between "basic mode", "comfort mode" and "perdormance mode"...
- So if one "riced too hard" they don't end up with a broken editor they can't fix themselves...
- Which is desireable for a productivity tool.
- Propably you'd even add something like a
-noconfflag to ignore all configurations and just load the blankevidefaults...
After all, people accept that with "#StallmanOS" aka. #GNUemacs too. (See
org mode)...- And #toybox does the same with it's "single binary" mode where one calls up it's
viimplementation buy calling the binary and then thevisubcommand like./toybox vi...- So it would be possible to do it, but I'm shure you'll figure out that once you want to cross that bridge...
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@mrmasterkeyboard @reiddragon I mean, that would be cool based upon the command it's called up.
evi: basicallyvimminus #AIslop.- Basically loads the
init.vim(like #vim does) configuration file and moves on from there`
- Basically loads the
nevi: basicallyneovimminus #AI #slop.- Loads the
init.luaconfiguration like #neovim would.
- Loads the
neville: basically something to add/removeNvChador other preconfigs.- In case someone wants to switch things...
It would also make it convienient to go between "basic mode", "comfort mode" and "perdormance mode"...
- So if one "riced too hard" they don't end up with a broken editor they can't fix themselves...
- Which is desireable for a productivity tool.
- Propably you'd even add something like a
-noconfflag to ignore all configurations and just load the blankevidefaults...
After all, people accept that with "#StallmanOS" aka. #GNUemacs too. (See
org mode)...- And #toybox does the same with it's "single binary" mode where one calls up it's
viimplementation buy calling the binary and then thevisubcommand like./toybox vi...- So it would be possible to do it, but I'm shure you'll figure out that once you want to cross that bridge...
@kkarhan @mrmasterkeyboard that would bloat up the codebase like nothing else; also, there's already a neovim fork around.
https://github.com/icevim-editor/icevim/
Its focus seems to be more on not breaking shit because apparently Neovim likes to break stuff all the time, but rn it's probably the best there is for a slop-free neovim -
@kkarhan @mrmasterkeyboard that would bloat up the codebase like nothing else; also, there's already a neovim fork around.
https://github.com/icevim-editor/icevim/
Its focus seems to be more on not breaking shit because apparently Neovim likes to break stuff all the time, but rn it's probably the best there is for a slop-free neovim@reiddragon @mrmasterkeyboard yeah, that makes more sense.
I definitely intent to put
eviandicevimon the package wishlist for @OS1337 ... -
@reiddragon well, @mrmasterkeyboard did #fork #vim at the last pre - #vommit point of the #git...
- It's known as
evi, which I think is a good name...- Maybe someday we get like
nevi(basicallyneovimon #evi basis)...
- Maybe someday we get like
Cuz I wish for that to happen, not only because I want to see a better #neovim but also because we better become more #intolerant to the #intolerable #Enshittification!
- If we don't take a hard stance against #AIslop and #vommits (aka. *"#vibeCode|d #commits) we'll end up with a #TechStack out of shit, piss, diharrea and spit that is *unsalvageable!
- Some may think that makes me a "#Hardliner" but I'd rather have my few principles than being a #sellout!
@kkarhan People have started making excuses for thinking using knowledge destroying tools built on theft, environmental destruction and exploitation is a bad thing. The Overton window is utterly insane on generative AI these days. “Of course I can see there are good uses of the Torment Nexus, but...” Seriously, it's a $#%#$%%#$% Torment Nexus!
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@kkarhan People have started making excuses for thinking using knowledge destroying tools built on theft, environmental destruction and exploitation is a bad thing. The Overton window is utterly insane on generative AI these days. “Of course I can see there are good uses of the Torment Nexus, but...” Seriously, it's a $#%#$%%#$% Torment Nexus!
@Lemmus precisely that!
- It's like excusing #murder because a #judge ordered it under the false pretense of #justice when in fact that doesn't undo harm caused nor does it make it less cruel by calling it "#DeathPenalty"!
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@reiddragon @mrmasterkeyboard yeah, that makes more sense.
I definitely intent to put
eviandicevimon the package wishlist for @OS1337 ...
