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  • arch@floofy.techA This user is from outside of this forum
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    #lockpicking thing. Friend thinks someone picked his lock and changed the combo - this is for his fursuit pelican case. How might one pick this particular model.

    Cc @alice

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    • arch@floofy.techA arch@floofy.tech

      #lockpicking thing. Friend thinks someone picked his lock and changed the combo - this is for his fursuit pelican case. How might one pick this particular model.

      Cc @alice

      jennyfluff@chitter.xyzJ This user is from outside of this forum
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      @arch @alice if you absolutely not have any tools, you'll get this open in less than 30 minutes

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      • arch@floofy.techA arch@floofy.tech

        #lockpicking thing. Friend thinks someone picked his lock and changed the combo - this is for his fursuit pelican case. How might one pick this particular model.

        Cc @alice

        zombie042@infosec.exchangeZ This user is from outside of this forum
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        @arch @alice While easy enough to just guess and eventually open with 3 wheels, if I were to make it faster I would use a notch decoder, most locks like this can be picked that way. Example video from lockpicking lawyer: https://youtu.be/aRBhcrI4Pj4&t=55

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        • arch@floofy.techA arch@floofy.tech

          #lockpicking thing. Friend thinks someone picked his lock and changed the combo - this is for his fursuit pelican case. How might one pick this particular model.

          Cc @alice

          phaysis@mastodon.coffeeP This user is from outside of this forum
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          @arch @alice
          Straightened paper clip, stick into the keyway slot at the top along the shackle. Lower until you hit the top tumbler; spin tumbler until you feel the paperclip drop. Work the next tumblers in the same way. Remove the paperclip. Now they're aligned with each other; turn all three as a group until the lock pops.

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          • arch@floofy.techA arch@floofy.tech

            #lockpicking thing. Friend thinks someone picked his lock and changed the combo - this is for his fursuit pelican case. How might one pick this particular model.

            Cc @alice

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            @arch put tension on the shackle by pulling the body of the lock. Now feel for the wheel that is binding the most. Rotate it until you feel it get a little slack. Find the next binding wheel and repeat.

            There will be three positions for each wheel: no gate, false gate, true gate.

            No gate - wheel will feel grindy, but will turn.

            False gate - wheel will catch and have a tiny amount of wiggle room between numbers.

            True gate - like false gate, but more wiggle room (usually about half a number in either direction for cheap locks).

            Once all wheels are in the true gate, it'll pop open.

            If it's too hard to turn a wheel, release pressure, then turn it, then pull the lock again.

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            • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

              @arch put tension on the shackle by pulling the body of the lock. Now feel for the wheel that is binding the most. Rotate it until you feel it get a little slack. Find the next binding wheel and repeat.

              There will be three positions for each wheel: no gate, false gate, true gate.

              No gate - wheel will feel grindy, but will turn.

              False gate - wheel will catch and have a tiny amount of wiggle room between numbers.

              True gate - like false gate, but more wiggle room (usually about half a number in either direction for cheap locks).

              Once all wheels are in the true gate, it'll pop open.

              If it's too hard to turn a wheel, release pressure, then turn it, then pull the lock again.

              alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @arch once you get the feel for it, you should get that lock open within a couple minutes.

              If you have trouble, there might be a similar lock somewhere in this house, and I can post a video of how to do it.

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                @arch @alice While easy enough to just guess and eventually open with 3 wheels, if I were to make it faster I would use a notch decoder, most locks like this can be picked that way. Example video from lockpicking lawyer: https://youtu.be/aRBhcrI4Pj4&t=55

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                @zombie042 that's overkill for this lock. The pull-pick method of decoding only takes a minute or so. No tools needed.

                Also, Lockpicking Lawyer isn't someone I'd recommend anymore.

                @arch

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                • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                  @arch put tension on the shackle by pulling the body of the lock. Now feel for the wheel that is binding the most. Rotate it until you feel it get a little slack. Find the next binding wheel and repeat.

                  There will be three positions for each wheel: no gate, false gate, true gate.

                  No gate - wheel will feel grindy, but will turn.

                  False gate - wheel will catch and have a tiny amount of wiggle room between numbers.

                  True gate - like false gate, but more wiggle room (usually about half a number in either direction for cheap locks).

                  Once all wheels are in the true gate, it'll pop open.

                  If it's too hard to turn a wheel, release pressure, then turn it, then pull the lock again.

                  alice@lgbtqia.spaceA This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @arch here's an example, using a random luggage lock. It has a cable shackle, so it needs to be tensioned by sliding the cable towards the center, instead of pulling shltraight down like a metal shackle model of this type of lock, but the rest is identical.

                  Search for the wheel that is "stickiest", adjust it, find if another wheel is now the "stickiest", adjust that, etc. You can see me looking for how much play the wheels have compared to each other. More give means morel likely a true gate. A little give, likely a false gate, but it's all relative to the others.

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                  • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                    @arch here's an example, using a random luggage lock. It has a cable shackle, so it needs to be tensioned by sliding the cable towards the center, instead of pulling shltraight down like a metal shackle model of this type of lock, but the rest is identical.

                    Search for the wheel that is "stickiest", adjust it, find if another wheel is now the "stickiest", adjust that, etc. You can see me looking for how much play the wheels have compared to each other. More give means morel likely a true gate. A little give, likely a false gate, but it's all relative to the others.

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                    @arch also, forgive my poor nails πŸ˜… I just stripped them last night and haven't repainted them yet today.

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                    • alice@lgbtqia.spaceA alice@lgbtqia.space

                      @arch also, forgive my poor nails πŸ˜… I just stripped them last night and haven't repainted them yet today.

                      arch@floofy.techA This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @alice you’re forgiven!

                      Thankfully we’re at a furry convention so there are a lot of people with a lock picking special interest too :3

                      But this is reminding me I want to get back into lock picking lol

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