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Measuring things in "tokens" feels like measuring things in a "foot" or an "inch."

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    Measuring things in "tokens" feels like measuring things in a "foot" or an "inch." How did we get to this unit of measurement? What does it even mean? What do you mean it's "about 4 letters?" How many of them are in a mile?

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      Measuring things in "tokens" feels like measuring things in a "foot" or an "inch." How did we get to this unit of measurement? What does it even mean? What do you mean it's "about 4 letters?" How many of them are in a mile?

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      @zak How many dachshunds in 1000 tokens?

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        @zak How many dachshunds in 1000 tokens?

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        @Sempf At least two.

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        • zak@infosec.exchangeZ zak@infosec.exchange

          Measuring things in "tokens" feels like measuring things in a "foot" or an "inch." How did we get to this unit of measurement? What does it even mean? What do you mean it's "about 4 letters?" How many of them are in a mile?

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          @zak it’s just like digital currency in an MMO - just abstracted enough to make it difficult to know how much it costs in real money.

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            @Sempf At least two.

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            @zak Woah.

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            • zak@infosec.exchangeZ zak@infosec.exchange

              Measuring things in "tokens" feels like measuring things in a "foot" or an "inch." How did we get to this unit of measurement? What does it even mean? What do you mean it's "about 4 letters?" How many of them are in a mile?

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              @zak "5280, of course."

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                Measuring things in "tokens" feels like measuring things in a "foot" or an "inch." How did we get to this unit of measurement? What does it even mean? What do you mean it's "about 4 letters?" How many of them are in a mile?

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                @zak In AI, “token” is a hypothetical measure derived from “toking”, with variable numbers of “tokens” provided by the “strength” of the particular “model”, all growth-optimized for most “tokes” with fewest “hallucinations”.

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                  @zak In AI, “token” is a hypothetical measure derived from “toking”, with variable numbers of “tokens” provided by the “strength” of the particular “model”, all growth-optimized for most “tokes” with fewest “hallucinations”.

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                  @HoffmanLabs Why we didn't call vibe coding "toking" is a mystery to me.

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