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  • lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net

    @x_cli

    What is git over email ?

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    @lienrag
    Here is a tutorial. I used it in a previous job and it was great and way better than Gitlab at that time https://git-send-email.io/#step-1

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    • lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.netL lienrag@mastodon.tedomum.net

      @x_cli

      What is git over email ?

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      @lienrag @x_cli

      A debian way of life
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      • x_cli@infosec.exchangeX x_cli@infosec.exchange

        @bortzmeyer git over email is so underrated...
        And yet, it is federated by design, and sometimes even more efficient than some forges...
        @yala @rysiek

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        @x_cli it's not just about git, it's often more about issues and other project management stuff.

        @bortzmeyer @yala

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        • x_cli@infosec.exchangeX x_cli@infosec.exchange

          @bortzmeyer git over email is so underrated...
          And yet, it is federated by design, and sometimes even more efficient than some forges...
          @yala @rysiek

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          @x_cli @bortzmeyer @yala @rysiek counterpoint: the last thing I want is more emails

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          • rysiek@mstdn.socialR rysiek@mstdn.social

            RE: https://metalhead.club/@thomas/116301990188175266

            2010: Let's make GitHub the new SourceForge! The default place for FLOSS code.

            2026: Let's make GitHub the new SourceForge! The awkward outdated cringe code hosting has-been.

            (but this time, ideally, we end up with many federated forges, one could hope!)

            #FLOSS

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            @rysiek it's for real https://sou.rceforge.net/github/copilot-cli

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            • cinebox@masto.hackers.townC cinebox@masto.hackers.town

              @x_cli @bortzmeyer @yala @rysiek counterpoint: the last thing I want is more emails

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              @cinebox I'm pretty sure the issue is not with the medium and has more to do with the senders and the content xD

              Now I would agree that receiving vibe-coded pull requests would certainly feel like receiving spam.

              @bortzmeyer @yala @rysiek

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              • yala@degrowth.socialY yala@degrowth.social

                @bortzmeyer
                I remember a story about some Forge, jo, and they wanted to federate.
                Even GitLab reopened their ActivityPub issue, but progress is slow and the actual need for ForgeFed-edarion seems to be not so pressing, after all?
                @rysiek

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                @yala
                I wanted to contribute to #garage S3 and they self host a forgejoe. It was a bit annoying having to create an account. It probably cost me two days before I opened an issue and my PR. It is just friction we need to solve.
                @bortzmeyer @rysiek

                Wrt codeberg and forgejoe, I'm wondering how actual development and independent feature contributions are compared to gitea.

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                • x_cli@infosec.exchangeX x_cli@infosec.exchange

                  @bortzmeyer git over email is so underrated...
                  And yet, it is federated by design, and sometimes even more efficient than some forges...
                  @yala @rysiek

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                  @x_cli @bortzmeyer @yala @rysiek : and it works offline !

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                  The Disconnected Git Workflow par Ploum - Lionel Dricot.

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                  • x_cli@infosec.exchangeX x_cli@infosec.exchange

                    @bortzmeyer git over email is so underrated...
                    And yet, it is federated by design, and sometimes even more efficient than some forges...
                    @yala @rysiek

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                    @x_cli

                    I disagree on one point : I am unable to manage git branches with git-sendmail.

                    @bortzmeyer @yala @rysiek

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                    • T tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

                      @x_cli

                      I disagree on one point : I am unable to manage git branches with git-sendmail.

                      @bortzmeyer @yala @rysiek

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                      @tanavit Could you please explain in more details what you mean by "managing git branches"?

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                      • ploum@mamot.frP ploum@mamot.fr

                        @x_cli @bortzmeyer @yala @rysiek : and it works offline !

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                        The Disconnected Git Workflow par Ploum - Lionel Dricot.

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                        @ploum @x_cli @bortzmeyer @yala @rysiek And then you try to plug automation to it... And the entire thing falls apart.

                        This is why most freedesktop.org projects switched away from emails. Patchwork-fdo tried super to provide a consistent view of patch series to review + associated CI results, but emails are too unstructured to work reliably (not including the fact that many email providers tamper with patches).

                        But worse than this, there cannot be collaboration on a shared global state for the project: no shared list of open issues, no integrated CI,... People just have to read the every email and build a mental image of the whole project. This doesn't scale, and Linux proves it...

                        I am all for decentralisation and offline operations, but basing it on emails just doesn't work. When all you have is a hammer, everything looks like a nail I guess...

                        Signed, a Freedesktop.org admin who has been spending 5 years on bringing the i915 driver quality up (https://intel-gfx-ci.01.org/, https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/), then 5 years doing the same in userspace using gitlab. The former is a joke compared to Mesa CI.

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                        • x_cli@infosec.exchangeX x_cli@infosec.exchange

                          @tanavit Could you please explain in more details what you mean by "managing git branches"?

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                          @x_cli

                          Suppose the main manager of a git repository proposes two branches (e.g. main and dev).
                          If I worked on the dev branch, the patch I will send does not have information about the branch I was working on, nor information about the official commit it applies to.

                          I may be wrong.

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                          • bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.frB bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr

                            @yala @rysiek All my code is at Framagit and by far rhe most common complain I hear from people who wanted to contribute (bug report, pull requests, etc) is "I don't want to create yet another account and to have to use yet another forge".
                            So, yes, federation is very important.

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                            @bortzmeyer @yala @rysiek Worse than having to create an account on some random GitLab instance is being asked to do it again because the one you had was deleted for not being used often enough.

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                            • T tanavit@toot.aquilenet.fr

                              @x_cli

                              Suppose the main manager of a git repository proposes two branches (e.g. main and dev).
                              If I worked on the dev branch, the patch I will send does not have information about the branch I was working on, nor information about the official commit it applies to.

                              I may be wrong.

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                              @tanavit It could be easily added to the cover letter, but AFAIK, you are correct that a "patch" (format-patch) won't contain that info by default.
                              git-request-pull is probably more suited for this?

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                              • x_cli@infosec.exchangeX x_cli@infosec.exchange

                                @tanavit It could be easily added to the cover letter, but AFAIK, you are correct that a "patch" (format-patch) won't contain that info by default.
                                git-request-pull is probably more suited for this?

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                                @x_cli

                                I agree.

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                                • bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.frB bortzmeyer@mastodon.gougere.fr

                                  @yala @rysiek All my code is at Framagit and by far rhe most common complain I hear from people who wanted to contribute (bug report, pull requests, etc) is "I don't want to create yet another account and to have to use yet another forge".
                                  So, yes, federation is very important.

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                                  @bortzmeyer
                                  I know of two projects working on a federated git repos solution, one of them is @radicle.
                                  Not tested though.
                                  @yala @rysiek

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