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  • paradox@raru.reP paradox@raru.re

    @linear @wafflesies
    The details are impeccable, but yeah it's weird that the main parts of the engine seem to be organized differently in each one.

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    @Paradox @linear @wafflesies It's definitely AI generated. After generating the fake photographs, they put together a fake Facebook Marketplace listing & artificially aged the image to make it look too old to be AI generated. ๐Ÿ˜ž
    https://furry.engineer/@jackemled/116508015102691495

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    • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

      @Paradox @linear @wafflesies It's definitely AI generated. After generating the fake photographs, they put together a fake Facebook Marketplace listing & artificially aged the image to make it look too old to be AI generated. ๐Ÿ˜ž
      https://furry.engineer/@jackemled/116508015102691495

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      @jackemled @linear @wafflesies
      Didn't know you could even do that.
      I'm honestly surprised the vent slots and chain bits didn't melt into each other. It's impressive.

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      • paradox@raru.reP paradox@raru.re

        @jackemled @linear @wafflesies
        Didn't know you could even do that.
        I'm honestly surprised the vent slots and chain bits didn't melt into each other. It's impressive.

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        @Paradox @jackemled @linear it's fake lol dw

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        • paradox@raru.reP paradox@raru.re

          @jackemled @linear @wafflesies
          Didn't know you could even do that.
          I'm honestly surprised the vent slots and chain bits didn't melt into each other. It's impressive.

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          @Paradox @linear @wafflesies It's depressing. They add more nodes to the neural network & continue training far beyond when diminishing returns manifest. It's beyond massively inefficient. There's also "AI Powered PhotoShop" from Adobe now, & I assume that kind of thing is a big part of this. I can imagine a malicious actor making a normal collage, erasing the seams, then saying "ok shitgpt fill in the gaps with mud for me", or "ok shitgpt make this but less obviously fake".

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          • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

            @Paradox @linear @wafflesies It's depressing. They add more nodes to the neural network & continue training far beyond when diminishing returns manifest. It's beyond massively inefficient. There's also "AI Powered PhotoShop" from Adobe now, & I assume that kind of thing is a big part of this. I can imagine a malicious actor making a normal collage, erasing the seams, then saying "ok shitgpt fill in the gaps with mud for me", or "ok shitgpt make this but less obviously fake".

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            @Paradox @linear @wafflesies I explain the artificial image aging in the linked post. Basically they apply lossy compression & lossy data transfers until the image looks like it has been circulating on the Internet for a long time, with people downloading & reposting or screenshotting & reposting several times.

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            • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

              @Paradox @linear @wafflesies It's depressing. They add more nodes to the neural network & continue training far beyond when diminishing returns manifest. It's beyond massively inefficient. There's also "AI Powered PhotoShop" from Adobe now, & I assume that kind of thing is a big part of this. I can imagine a malicious actor making a normal collage, erasing the seams, then saying "ok shitgpt fill in the gaps with mud for me", or "ok shitgpt make this but less obviously fake".

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              @jackemled @Paradox @linear this post is an indicator that you already don't know whats real anymore
              Bear that in mind moving forward

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              • wafflesies@infosec.exchangeW wafflesies@infosec.exchange

                @jackemled @Paradox @linear this post is an indicator that you already don't know whats real anymore
                Bear that in mind moving forward

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                @wafflesies @Paradox @linear It's depressing, but naturally occurring neural network architectures are capable of self improvement & can also train much more efficiently than artificial architectures. I will always be more adaptable than a LLM or image generator. I now have a sample size of five for this "generation" of random image generators & I'm already ahead of them. I probably will not fall for this more than two or three more times, assuming each time after this only has one image.

                This has been a cat & mouse game for a few years now, but unlike what techbros think, I am the cat & they are the mouse. They are the ones who must keep finding new ways to trick me, it's not me that has to keep finding out how to evade their tricks.

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                • linear@nya.socialL linear@nya.social
                  @wafflesies@infosec.exchange this looks ai-generated or something. each of the images are different, even if they look vaguely similar
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                  @linear @wafflesies

                  also if you think a gas engine would only get 2 hours, even on one of those things, you've probably never seen an actual gas powered laptop ๐Ÿ˜‚

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                  • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                    @wafflesies @Paradox @linear It's depressing, but naturally occurring neural network architectures are capable of self improvement & can also train much more efficiently than artificial architectures. I will always be more adaptable than a LLM or image generator. I now have a sample size of five for this "generation" of random image generators & I'm already ahead of them. I probably will not fall for this more than two or three more times, assuming each time after this only has one image.

                    This has been a cat & mouse game for a few years now, but unlike what techbros think, I am the cat & they are the mouse. They are the ones who must keep finding new ways to trick me, it's not me that has to keep finding out how to evade their tricks.

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                    @jackemled @Paradox @linear while I'm not sure about AGI technology will continue to improve and reality will become harder to distinguish
                    Remember technology can never move backwards only forwards

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                    • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                      @Paradox @linear @wafflesies I explain the artificial image aging in the linked post. Basically they apply lossy compression & lossy data transfers until the image looks like it has been circulating on the Internet for a long time, with people downloading & reposting or screenshotting & reposting several times.

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                      @jackemled @Paradox @linear yeah common ageing thing ive seen it used in deep frying

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                      • wafflesies@infosec.exchangeW wafflesies@infosec.exchange

                        @jackemled @Paradox @linear while I'm not sure about AGI technology will continue to improve and reality will become harder to distinguish
                        Remember technology can never move backwards only forwards

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                        @wafflesies @Paradox @linear It can absolutely move backwards. I don't think Greek fire has been figured out again yet, & no one has synthesized sylphium either. Also random image generators are easily defeated by turning the screen off, so I don't think I have to worry about distinguishing reality from noise. It's not like I'm stuck in The Matrix.

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                        • jackemled@furry.engineerJ jackemled@furry.engineer

                          @wafflesies @Paradox @linear It can absolutely move backwards. I don't think Greek fire has been figured out again yet, & no one has synthesized sylphium either. Also random image generators are easily defeated by turning the screen off, so I don't think I have to worry about distinguishing reality from noise. It's not like I'm stuck in The Matrix.

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                          @jackemled @Paradox @linear I think in the end were gonna have to innawoods

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                          • wafflesies@infosec.exchangeW wafflesies@infosec.exchange

                            @jackemled @Paradox @linear I think in the end were gonna have to innawoods

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                            @wafflesies @Paradox @linear I haven't heard of it.

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                            • swirly@donotsta.reS swirly@donotsta.re

                              @wafflesies@infosec.exchange

                              i have so many questions, starting with does the battery indicator work

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                              @swirly @wafflesies my guess is that it doesnt

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                                @wafflesies you don't have to worry about loud fans

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                                • themannofcool@alovely.spaceT themannofcool@alovely.space

                                  @swirly @wafflesies my guess is that it doesnt

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                                  @themannofcool @swirly @wafflesies No, it works โ€” see, there is an external battery indicator โ€” gasoline level in the white tank

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                                    @wafflesies

                                    Dieselpunk

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                                      @wafflesies It uses an extremely energy-dense fuel and it *still* only lasts an hour and a half?!? Holy shit.

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                                        @wafflesies
                                        Now I want to build this

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                                        • paradox@raru.reP paradox@raru.re

                                          @linear @wafflesies
                                          The details are impeccable, but yeah it's weird that the main parts of the engine seem to be organized differently in each one.

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                                          @Paradox @linear @wafflesies *cool looking image*

                                          conversation : "it's all AI btw"

                                          It's a new daily facepalm I'd need a cultural name for it, something like Aibummer or AI trap

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