It’s both disingenuous to celebrate Proton (who are a business making money in a friendly nation) as bulletproof, and to compare them to Google, who make money by mining your email content.
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It’s both disingenuous to celebrate Proton (who are a business making money in a friendly nation) as bulletproof, and to compare them to Google, who make money by mining your email content. Understand your threat model and message accordingly. https://www.404media.co/proton-mail-helped-fbi-unmask-anonymous-stop-cop-city-protestor/
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It’s both disingenuous to celebrate Proton (who are a business making money in a friendly nation) as bulletproof, and to compare them to Google, who make money by mining your email content. Understand your threat model and message accordingly. https://www.404media.co/proton-mail-helped-fbi-unmask-anonymous-stop-cop-city-protestor/
@hacks4pancakes
I've been essentially saying the same. I use them and would generally recommend them, but they will ultimately comply with government demands. If your threat model involves hostile, powerful nations then you need something significantly more than Proton provides. -
It’s both disingenuous to celebrate Proton (who are a business making money in a friendly nation) as bulletproof, and to compare them to Google, who make money by mining your email content. Understand your threat model and message accordingly. https://www.404media.co/proton-mail-helped-fbi-unmask-anonymous-stop-cop-city-protestor/
@hacks4pancakes
If I need to transmit something sensitive I'll tell people to message me via @signalapp or @session and not email even though I do have a paid Proton account. -
It’s both disingenuous to celebrate Proton (who are a business making money in a friendly nation) as bulletproof, and to compare them to Google, who make money by mining your email content. Understand your threat model and message accordingly. https://www.404media.co/proton-mail-helped-fbi-unmask-anonymous-stop-cop-city-protestor/
@hacks4pancakes Yes, and I do think that the headline misrepresents what actually happened.
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It’s both disingenuous to celebrate Proton (who are a business making money in a friendly nation) as bulletproof, and to compare them to Google, who make money by mining your email content. Understand your threat model and message accordingly. https://www.404media.co/proton-mail-helped-fbi-unmask-anonymous-stop-cop-city-protestor/
@hacks4pancakes I agree, but I got one small nitpick. As someone from Switzerland it's hard to agree with the "friendly nation" part, we got our fair share of surveillance laws which are continuously expanded, search for BÜPF and VÜPF for some specifics. So that whole marketing term of "Swiss privacy laws" is getting more and more meaningless.
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@hacks4pancakes I agree, but I got one small nitpick. As someone from Switzerland it's hard to agree with the "friendly nation" part, we got our fair share of surveillance laws which are continuously expanded, search for BÜPF and VÜPF for some specifics. So that whole marketing term of "Swiss privacy laws" is getting more and more meaningless.
@hertg "friendly" in the sense that both countries legally share info upon request.
Reg. the current revision of the surveillance law, Proton wd leave CH if it passed.
They already started to disinvest towards GER. -
@hertg "friendly" in the sense that both countries legally share info upon request.
Reg. the current revision of the surveillance law, Proton wd leave CH if it passed.
They already started to disinvest towards GER.@w00p Oh that might have been a misunderstanding on my part. I read it as a value judgement first, but I guess they meant friendly as in "friendly to the US" which is factual of course.
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