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You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands.

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  • dramypsyd@ohai.socialD dramypsyd@ohai.social

    You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.

    fsinn@mas.toF This user is from outside of this forum
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    #17

    @dramypsyd + 1 !

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    • dramypsyd@ohai.socialD dramypsyd@ohai.social

      You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.

      cobalt123@beige.partyC This user is from outside of this forum
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      #18

      @dramypsyd Me as well! I have found them very expressive—dynamic.

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      • dramypsyd@ohai.socialD dramypsyd@ohai.social

        You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.

        gryphonwandering@mastodon.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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        #19

        @dramypsyd I wasn’t expecting Em-Dash Hill to be the one I’d die on, but I’m right there with you.

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        • dramypsyd@ohai.socialD dramypsyd@ohai.social

          You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.

          mloxton@med-mastodon.comM This user is from outside of this forum
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          #20

          @dramypsyd
          That, and my Oxford comma!

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          • dramypsyd@ohai.socialD dramypsyd@ohai.social

            You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.

            gekitsu@toot.catG This user is from outside of this forum
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            #21

            @dramypsyd as a member of team parentheticals with spaced en-dashes: i stand with you against the ensloppifiers!

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            • rickf@indieweb.socialR rickf@indieweb.social

              @dramypsyd Hell yeah!

              EMDASH FTW!

              and in my case,

              ELLIPSES FTW!

              su_liam@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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              #22

              @rickf @dramypsyd Yeah…

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              • mloxton@med-mastodon.comM mloxton@med-mastodon.com

                @dramypsyd
                That, and my Oxford comma!

                su_liam@mas.toS This user is from outside of this forum
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                #23

                @mloxton @dramypsyd You go! I’ll add my non-Oxford comma to the mix. Human ambiguity and variety FTW!

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                • tychotithonus@infosec.exchangeT tychotithonus@infosec.exchange

                  @dramypsyd And making sure they have a little space around them, despite the pressure to exclude it (from editors and convention)!

                  gnate@ohai.socialG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #24

                  @tychotithonus
                  Well now I'm curious about the history of that convention. I'm used to seeing em dashes without space, but in a literary context. As in Joseph Conrad, Melville,et al. (Bit of a stab in the dark, can't confirm such use by those particular authors...)
                  @dramypsyd

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                  • dramypsyd@ohai.socialD dramypsyd@ohai.social

                    You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.

                    catscatscats@mastodon.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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                    #25

                    @dramypsyd I have a strong opinion that the em-dash has a very specific, narrow set of correct usages and should not be tossed about willy-nilly.

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                    • gnate@ohai.socialG gnate@ohai.social

                      @tychotithonus
                      Well now I'm curious about the history of that convention. I'm used to seeing em dashes without space, but in a literary context. As in Joseph Conrad, Melville,et al. (Bit of a stab in the dark, can't confirm such use by those particular authors...)
                      @dramypsyd

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                      #26

                      @gnate

                      Yep, exactly. But they break the flow of understanding the text, historical usage be darned!

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                      • dramypsyd@ohai.socialD dramypsyd@ohai.social

                        You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.

                        paelse@mastodon.onlineP This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @dramypsyd

                        Agreed - I feel exactly the same.

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                        • tychotithonus@infosec.exchangeT tychotithonus@infosec.exchange

                          @gnate

                          Yep, exactly. But they break the flow of understanding the text, historical usage be darned!

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                          #28

                          @tychotithonus
                          It's all about expectations. I did find it jarring upon the first encounters, but now I find it jarring to see spaces where I'm not used to seeing them.

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                          • dramypsyd@ohai.socialD dramypsyd@ohai.social

                            You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.

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                            #29

                            @dramypsyd I have taken the same position on semicolons; a perfectly cromulent punctuation that nobody, including me, uses correctly. And yet...like the ellipsis..they shall never take it from me.

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                            • dramypsyd@ohai.socialD dramypsyd@ohai.social

                              You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.

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                              #30

                              @dramypsyd

                              You have to provoke them — ideally by inserting several sorts of punctuation; en dashes (–) and hyphens (-) included.

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                              • dramypsyd@ohai.socialD dramypsyd@ohai.social

                                You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.

                                divverent@misskey.deD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @dramypsyd@ohai.social Technically your em-dashes are wrong. em-dashes are generally not meant to be surrounded by spaces—unlike en-dashes, which the Germans use for speaking their German language – a truly marvelous one, probably.

                                Practically, have fun! Rules for language don't matter.
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                                • divverent@misskey.deD divverent@misskey.de
                                  @dramypsyd@ohai.social Technically your em-dashes are wrong. em-dashes are generally not meant to be surrounded by spaces—unlike en-dashes, which the Germans use for speaking their German language – a truly marvelous one, probably.

                                  Practically, have fun! Rules for language don't matter.
                                  damonhd@mastodon.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  #32

                                  @divVerent @dramypsyd I am an ex-small-time editor, and for practical and aesthetic reasons think that consistently wrapping em- and not en- dashes in whitespace is the better option.

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                                  • divverent@misskey.deD divverent@misskey.de
                                    @dramypsyd@ohai.social Technically your em-dashes are wrong. em-dashes are generally not meant to be surrounded by spaces—unlike en-dashes, which the Germans use for speaking their German language – a truly marvelous one, probably.

                                    Practically, have fun! Rules for language don't matter.
                                    dramypsyd@ohai.socialD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    #33

                                    @divVerent I learned something new today—thank you!

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                                    • damonhd@mastodon.socialD damonhd@mastodon.social

                                      @divVerent @dramypsyd I am an ex-small-time editor, and for practical and aesthetic reasons think that consistently wrapping em- and not en- dashes in whitespace is the better option.

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                                      @DamonHD@mastodon.social @dramypsyd@ohai.social I also prefer em-dash with spaces, despite being wrong. Just looks better and matches the purpose of the dash more.
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                                      • dramypsyd@ohai.socialD dramypsyd@ohai.social

                                        You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.

                                        nazokiyoubinbou@urusai.socialN This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        #35

                                        @dramypsyd They're so much nicer than having to put in two separate dashes to loosely represent them. I will never go back — if someone accuses me, so be it.

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                                        • dramypsyd@ohai.socialD dramypsyd@ohai.social

                                          You will pry my em dashes from my cold — and dead — hands. I had them before AI was conceived and I’ll have them long after it’s gone.

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                                          #36

                                          @dramypsyd Damn right. I’ve always been a bit embarrassed by how much I overuse em dashes — and, really, who wouldn’t be? — but I’ve decided THIS is the hill I’m gonna die on. They can’t take them away from us. Dash proudly.

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