Hot take of the day: we could have stopped Adobe ages ago if GIMP had any other name.
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Hot take of the day: we could have stopped Adobe ages ago if GIMP had any other name.
GIMP is nominative determinism applied to open source. If Fedora was named FUCKBOI, it would have failed too.
@Craigp I must say, not all the word speaks English as a first language, and those who don't don't care much how it's called. I, for one, care more about how to verbally communicate about it. It has the same pronunciation ambiguity (for non-native English speakers) as GIF.
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Hot take of the day: we could have stopped Adobe ages ago if GIMP had any other name.
GIMP is nominative determinism applied to open source. If Fedora was named FUCKBOI, it would have failed too.
@Craigp@mastodon.social hah! This imagines that GIMP is a programme that artists and designers would willingly want to use, voluntarily. It’s just too obtuse, ugly, incorrect, and essentially faulty compared to just about any normal macOS programme out there since the 80s.
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Hot take of the day: we could have stopped Adobe ages ago if GIMP had any other name.
GIMP is nominative determinism applied to open source. If Fedora was named FUCKBOI, it would have failed too.
@Craigp Got to admit, the criticism of the name, many years after first using it, was the first time I learned the word had any meaning beyond the abbreviation.
(English is my second language.)
Now of course I can't unsee it nor understand why they don't change it.
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@Craigp Do you have recommendations for alternatives that are good for photo editing? I hated using a product named that way, but there didn't seem to be good alternatives, and still I don't know of any off the top of my head...
@luxliquida i only do sketch/paint art, not photo editing. I have suggestions for those, but I've never chased photo editors, sorry.
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@Craigp Do you have recommendations for alternatives that are good for photo editing? I hated using a product named that way, but there didn't seem to be good alternatives, and still I don't know of any off the top of my head...
@luxliquida @Craigp maybe Krita would be good for photo editing? I pretty much only use it for MS Paint style stuff, but that's what I was using gimp for too. Both have a lot of buttons that I haven't learned about yet
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Hot take of the day: we could have stopped Adobe ages ago if GIMP had any other name.
GIMP is nominative determinism applied to open source. If Fedora was named FUCKBOI, it would have failed too.
Personally, I'm now very interested in the FUCKBOI software you mentioned
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@Craigp I don't think its name is the *only* thing that's been holding it back. But I agree that it's a significant factor.
@Thad i think a better name would have brought more faces and a more lively current to the project. Stagnation breeds mosquitos.
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Hot take of the day: we could have stopped Adobe ages ago if GIMP had any other name.
GIMP is nominative determinism applied to open source. If Fedora was named FUCKBOI, it would have failed too.
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@Craigp
[Proposal for Community-Driven GnuImp fork] -
GIMP spent a decade sucking the oxygen out of open source image editing because open source advocates would say "just contribute to the porn sextime fetish sadomaso image editor" and people would say "uhhhh. I'll just keep using Photoshop, or maybe donate my coding to, uh... a mouse driver or something..."
@Craigp using gimp is in itself an act of masochism so dark i wouldn’t wish it on my worst enemy, so maybe that is more of an issue than the naming scheme …
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Hot take of the day: we could have stopped Adobe ages ago if GIMP had any other name.
GIMP is nominative determinism applied to open source. If Fedora was named FUCKBOI, it would have failed too.
@Craigp uhm... I don't think the name did as much as the messy user interface...
manjaro in italian sounds silly/funny, but it's overtaking ubuntu and fedora nonetheless -
@Craigp I must say, not all the word speaks English as a first language, and those who don't don't care much how it's called. I, for one, care more about how to verbally communicate about it. It has the same pronunciation ambiguity (for non-native English speakers) as GIF.
@waltertross sure, but the english as a first language world drove a lot of open source contributions and art program usage, and that's my point.
It stagnates because a big chunk of their userbase and potential contributors didn't want to see the name, even if others didn't care.
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@Thad i think a better name would have brought more faces and a more lively current to the project. Stagnation breeds mosquitos.
@Craigp Yeah, I agree with that. I don't think it would have put it in a position to take out Adobe, but it would almost certainly be in a better position than it's in.
And of course the name is symptomatic of a bigger, more general problem, of projects being led by overgrown teenage boys who retreat into a defensive "can't you take a joke?" posture when someone tells them they're putting people off.
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@Craigp@mastodon.social hah! This imagines that GIMP is a programme that artists and designers would willingly want to use, voluntarily. It’s just too obtuse, ugly, incorrect, and essentially faulty compared to just about any normal macOS programme out there since the 80s.
@u0421793 IMO, yes, BECAUSE people refused to contribute to a project with that name.
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@luxliquida @Craigp maybe Krita would be good for photo editing? I pretty much only use it for MS Paint style stuff, but that's what I was using gimp for too. Both have a lot of buttons that I haven't learned about yet
@beaiouns @luxliquida ibuse Krita for painting! I haven't tried editing photos.
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GIMP spent a decade sucking the oxygen out of open source image editing because open source advocates would say "just contribute to the porn sextime fetish sadomaso image editor" and people would say "uhhhh. I'll just keep using Photoshop, or maybe donate my coding to, uh... a mouse driver or something..."
It appears this really was the hot take of the day. Stick around for long threads on boring shit.
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Hot take of the day: we could have stopped Adobe ages ago if GIMP had any other name.
GIMP is nominative determinism applied to open source. If Fedora was named FUCKBOI, it would have failed too.
I agree they should have renamed GnuIMP a long time ago.
But counter example, did inkscape eat a meaningful percentage of illustrator's market share?
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I agree they should have renamed GnuIMP a long time ago.
But counter example, did inkscape eat a meaningful percentage of illustrator's market share?
@intrepidhero i think the existence of GIMP chilled the image editing open source environment enough that alternate projects struggled too.
By the time people gave up on it, open source was far behind and the market was consolidated.
imo.
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