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  3. The Web Serial API landed in Firefox 151, allowing you to connect directly to microcontrollers, dev boards, 3D printers, power meters, and other serial-connected hardware from the web.

The Web Serial API landed in Firefox 151, allowing you to connect directly to microcontrollers, dev boards, 3D printers, power meters, and other serial-connected hardware from the web.

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  • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

    @hj Web Serial is the second API we've applied this new permission flow to, the other being WebMIDI. We'll continue to look at other APIs on an individual basis.

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    @firefoxwebdevs I hope you implement at least WebHID because it's very popular and lack of support for it in Firefox just drives popularity of Electron and Chromium(-based browsers)
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    • hj@shigusegubu.clubH hj@shigusegubu.club
      @firefoxwebdevs I hope you implement at least WebHID because it's very popular and lack of support for it in Firefox just drives popularity of Electron and Chromium(-based browsers)
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      #11

      @hj which sites do you use that use it, or what are your use-cases for it as a developer?

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      • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

        @hj which sites do you use that use it, or what are your use-cases for it as a developer?

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        #12
        @firefoxwebdevs something like https://usevia.app/ https://launcher.keychron.com/

        Same idea as Web Serial, just different hardware API. Usecase is the same - controlling and configuring hardware.

        VIA and Keychron Launcher let me configure my keyboard and mouse without having to download a windows-only "driver" and run it on wine with terrible results.
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        • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

          @Schepp developer feedback, and finding a satisfactory flow that communicates the security and privacy implications.

          This is the second API we've done this with, the other being WebMIDI. We're looking at other similar APIs one at a time.

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          #13

          @firefoxwebdevs @Schepp
          What about restore GUI that follows the system?
          Fix printing bugs.
          Offer paginated view of a website.
          Fix bugs.
          Strip all viewers except Web page (no PDF).
          Fix bugs.
          Fix GUI.
          Privacy.

          I do not want WebApps, or controlling serial or USB devices or MIDI via a web page.

          I want a WEB BROWSER. Something that fetches webpages, renders HTML/CSS and allows disabling per item of content not from the domain.

          Listen to real users! But it's nearly impossible to send feedback!

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          • raymaccarthy@mastodon.ieR raymaccarthy@mastodon.ie

            @firefoxwebdevs @Schepp
            What about restore GUI that follows the system?
            Fix printing bugs.
            Offer paginated view of a website.
            Fix bugs.
            Strip all viewers except Web page (no PDF).
            Fix bugs.
            Fix GUI.
            Privacy.

            I do not want WebApps, or controlling serial or USB devices or MIDI via a web page.

            I want a WEB BROWSER. Something that fetches webpages, renders HTML/CSS and allows disabling per item of content not from the domain.

            Listen to real users! But it's nearly impossible to send feedback!

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            #14

            @firefoxwebdevs @Schepp
            I write as someone that has developed software, uses real & USB based serial, various USB devices (MTP, Storage, Minidisc, camera, capture, audio), PDFs, built websites, desktop & embedded programs.
            Every week there is new garbage program using the Web Browser instead of a sane GUI framework.
            A web Browser is now a privacy leaking monster.
            Firefox-bin 517.5 MiB one Tab!
            That's obscene.
            KATE 161.9
            Okular with a giant PDF manual: 206 MiB. It's the Swiss Army Knife viewer.

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            • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

              The Web Serial API landed in Firefox 151, allowing you to connect directly to microcontrollers, dev boards, 3D printers, power meters, and other serial-connected hardware from the web. Here's how it works:

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              #15

              @firefoxwebdevs

              Finally... When WebUSB so I would not need Chromium to configure keyboard?

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              • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                The Web Serial API landed in Firefox 151, allowing you to connect directly to microcontrollers, dev boards, 3D printers, power meters, and other serial-connected hardware from the web. Here's how it works:

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                #16

                @firefoxwebdevs
                This is what we want!
                Not stupid soccer widgets appearing without consent and AI Slop,
                but actual features and improvements to the browser!!!

                You are on thin ice still but more of this and no bs please.

                Maybe you might even stop alienating your userbase then

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                • hrw@society.oftrolls.comH hrw@society.oftrolls.com

                  @firefoxwebdevs

                  Finally... When WebUSB so I would not need Chromium to configure keyboard?

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                  #17

                  @hrw @firefoxwebdevs
                  No they really need to focus on AI Slop and soccer and weather widget that appear without consent first

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                  • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                    The Web Serial API landed in Firefox 151, allowing you to connect directly to microcontrollers, dev boards, 3D printers, power meters, and other serial-connected hardware from the web. Here's how it works:

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                    #18

                    @firefoxwebdevs ok, this is actually great news.

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                    • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                      The Web Serial API landed in Firefox 151, allowing you to connect directly to microcontrollers, dev boards, 3D printers, power meters, and other serial-connected hardware from the web. Here's how it works:

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                      @firefoxwebdevs not a security nightmare at all...

                      /s

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                      • tasket@infosec.exchangeT tasket@infosec.exchange

                        @firefoxwebdevs not a security nightmare at all...

                        /s

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                        #20

                        @tasket @firefoxwebdevs How exactly is it a security nightmare when it needs explicit user consent?

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                        • niutech@fosstodon.orgN niutech@fosstodon.org

                          @tasket @firefoxwebdevs How exactly is it a security nightmare when it needs explicit user consent?

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                          @niutech How many users understand what is being asked of them?

                          How much will these prompts proliferate?

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                          • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                            The Web Serial API landed in Firefox 151, allowing you to connect directly to microcontrollers, dev boards, 3D printers, power meters, and other serial-connected hardware from the web. Here's how it works:

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                            @firefoxwebdevs WHAT THE FUCK! STOP FUCKING COPYING CHROME'S HELLSCAPE NIGHTMARES!
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                            • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                              The Web Serial API landed in Firefox 151, allowing you to connect directly to microcontrollers, dev boards, 3D printers, power meters, and other serial-connected hardware from the web. Here's how it works:

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                              #23

                              @firefoxwebdevs This is really cool and I've been waiting for this feature for so long. I'm excited to use it but I still don't understand how. The permission is required but what triggers the popup to grant the permission?

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                              • hisold@toot.ioH hisold@toot.io

                                @firefoxwebdevs This is really cool and I've been waiting for this feature for so long. I'm excited to use it but I still don't understand how. The permission is required but what triggers the popup to grant the permission?

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                                #24

                                @hisold requestPort needs to be called from "user activation", like the click of a button element.

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                                • firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.socialF firefoxwebdevs@mastodon.social

                                  @hisold requestPort needs to be called from "user activation", like the click of a button element.

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                                  #25

                                  @firefoxwebdevs I just tried it again in a onclick function of a button. It just errors navigator.serial is undefined every time I click the button. Same when using the click event.

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                                  • hisold@toot.ioH hisold@toot.io

                                    @firefoxwebdevs I just tried it again in a onclick function of a button. It just errors navigator.serial is undefined every time I click the button. Same when using the click event.

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                                    #26

                                    @hisold and you're definitely on Firefox 151 (desktop)?

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