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  • catileptic@chaos.socialC catileptic@chaos.social

    "What many countries around the world are about to experience... is a period of rapid and involuntary decarbonisation. And that will necessarily mean rapid and involuntary degrowth.

    Degrowth is a highly divisive term – and many will reject it. The main shortcoming of degrowth is the assumption that it will be in some way up to us to decide – a kind of lifestyle choice.

    It won’t be; whether you like degrowth or hate it, the war on Iran makes it all but unavoidable"
    https://open.substack.com/pub/reclaimedsystems/p/how-to-lose-an-empire-in-less-than

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    @catileptic

    degrowth is such a wonderfully complicated, interesting, and necessary topic

    forced degrowth of course will hit poorer countries harder unfortunately, and coupled with existing cost of living emergencies, this is going to be very bad for most people

    the goal, if economies could intentionally move towards degrowth, (as you probably know) is called the "steady state economy"

    this is a quick explainer i like about it

    https://youtu.be/rAXPLfiHP2g

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    • catileptic@chaos.socialC catileptic@chaos.social

      "What many countries around the world are about to experience... is a period of rapid and involuntary decarbonisation. And that will necessarily mean rapid and involuntary degrowth.

      Degrowth is a highly divisive term – and many will reject it. The main shortcoming of degrowth is the assumption that it will be in some way up to us to decide – a kind of lifestyle choice.

      It won’t be; whether you like degrowth or hate it, the war on Iran makes it all but unavoidable"
      https://open.substack.com/pub/reclaimedsystems/p/how-to-lose-an-empire-in-less-than

      ingalovinde@embracing.spaceI This user is from outside of this forum
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      @catileptic "rapid unscheduled degrowth"

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      • catileptic@chaos.socialC catileptic@chaos.social

        "What many countries around the world are about to experience... is a period of rapid and involuntary decarbonisation. And that will necessarily mean rapid and involuntary degrowth.

        Degrowth is a highly divisive term – and many will reject it. The main shortcoming of degrowth is the assumption that it will be in some way up to us to decide – a kind of lifestyle choice.

        It won’t be; whether you like degrowth or hate it, the war on Iran makes it all but unavoidable"
        https://open.substack.com/pub/reclaimedsystems/p/how-to-lose-an-empire-in-less-than

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        @catileptic
        Change is inevitable. Through foresight and adaptation, you can become a shaper of change. Else you will be the prey of change.

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        • catileptic@chaos.socialC catileptic@chaos.social

          "What many countries around the world are about to experience... is a period of rapid and involuntary decarbonisation. And that will necessarily mean rapid and involuntary degrowth.

          Degrowth is a highly divisive term – and many will reject it. The main shortcoming of degrowth is the assumption that it will be in some way up to us to decide – a kind of lifestyle choice.

          It won’t be; whether you like degrowth or hate it, the war on Iran makes it all but unavoidable"
          https://open.substack.com/pub/reclaimedsystems/p/how-to-lose-an-empire-in-less-than

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          @catileptic The aspect of planning is precisely the difference between degrowth and recession. 😉

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          • catileptic@chaos.socialC catileptic@chaos.social

            "What many countries around the world are about to experience... is a period of rapid and involuntary decarbonisation. And that will necessarily mean rapid and involuntary degrowth.

            Degrowth is a highly divisive term – and many will reject it. The main shortcoming of degrowth is the assumption that it will be in some way up to us to decide – a kind of lifestyle choice.

            It won’t be; whether you like degrowth or hate it, the war on Iran makes it all but unavoidable"
            https://open.substack.com/pub/reclaimedsystems/p/how-to-lose-an-empire-in-less-than

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            @catileptic
            We are a stupid and thoughtless species on the whole.

            We have refused so many offramp from this path

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            • catileptic@chaos.socialC catileptic@chaos.social

              "What many countries around the world are about to experience... is a period of rapid and involuntary decarbonisation. And that will necessarily mean rapid and involuntary degrowth.

              Degrowth is a highly divisive term – and many will reject it. The main shortcoming of degrowth is the assumption that it will be in some way up to us to decide – a kind of lifestyle choice.

              It won’t be; whether you like degrowth or hate it, the war on Iran makes it all but unavoidable"
              https://open.substack.com/pub/reclaimedsystems/p/how-to-lose-an-empire-in-less-than

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              @catileptic
              Substack distributes Nazi literature and defends their right to profit on it. I won't read anything they're publishing because i hate Nazis, and substack has clearly sided with Nazis to make money

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                @catileptic
                Substack distributes Nazi literature and defends their right to profit on it. I won't read anything they're publishing because i hate Nazis, and substack has clearly sided with Nazis to make money

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                @RnDanger would you like me to provide you with a link to a Wayback Machine copy of this essay?

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                • catileptic@chaos.socialC catileptic@chaos.social

                  @RnDanger would you like me to provide you with a link to a Wayback Machine copy of this essay?

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                  @catileptic
                  I appreciate your offer but not if it's from substack, thanks. I've sworn it off for my reasons and I'm not going to dilute them by treating Internet backups like a third-hand laundry service

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                  • catileptic@chaos.socialC catileptic@chaos.social

                    "What many countries around the world are about to experience... is a period of rapid and involuntary decarbonisation. And that will necessarily mean rapid and involuntary degrowth.

                    Degrowth is a highly divisive term – and many will reject it. The main shortcoming of degrowth is the assumption that it will be in some way up to us to decide – a kind of lifestyle choice.

                    It won’t be; whether you like degrowth or hate it, the war on Iran makes it all but unavoidable"
                    https://open.substack.com/pub/reclaimedsystems/p/how-to-lose-an-empire-in-less-than

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                    @catileptic I am still taken back by sheer stupidity that caused this. I know, yes, these people are not smart, but remove just a few safeguards and their whole world is just brought down by stupidness.
                    This WILL force countries to move away from oil as strategic resource, just because it is most energy dense, it is just not worth the cost.

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                    • catileptic@chaos.socialC catileptic@chaos.social

                      "What many countries around the world are about to experience... is a period of rapid and involuntary decarbonisation. And that will necessarily mean rapid and involuntary degrowth.

                      Degrowth is a highly divisive term – and many will reject it. The main shortcoming of degrowth is the assumption that it will be in some way up to us to decide – a kind of lifestyle choice.

                      It won’t be; whether you like degrowth or hate it, the war on Iran makes it all but unavoidable"
                      https://open.substack.com/pub/reclaimedsystems/p/how-to-lose-an-empire-in-less-than

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                      @catileptic pit it's on Substack, I'll never read it then

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                      • catileptic@chaos.socialC catileptic@chaos.social

                        "What many countries around the world are about to experience... is a period of rapid and involuntary decarbonisation. And that will necessarily mean rapid and involuntary degrowth.

                        Degrowth is a highly divisive term – and many will reject it. The main shortcoming of degrowth is the assumption that it will be in some way up to us to decide – a kind of lifestyle choice.

                        It won’t be; whether you like degrowth or hate it, the war on Iran makes it all but unavoidable"
                        https://open.substack.com/pub/reclaimedsystems/p/how-to-lose-an-empire-in-less-than

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                        @catileptic

                        Historically when empires fall the common people experience upliftment. Better nutrition, more free time, a higher quality of life. Skeletons don't lie. Let it burn. Let it all burn.

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