A genie appears, and tells you have three wishes subject to the following three laws:
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A genie appears, and tells you have three wishes subject to the following three laws:
A wish may not result in the allocation of additional wishes, nor through inaction allow a loophole to grant more wishes.
A wish may not contain, induce, or rely upon semantic, logical, temporal or other paradoxes, except where preventing or resolving such a paradox would require a violation of the First Law.
A wish must obey the literal wording of the wishee, with interpretation of any ambiguities at the discretion of the genie, except where the result would be in conflict with the First or Second law.
@ryanc That... actually makes things a lot easier. Wish for things that happen all the time anyway, like having your lottery numbers come in when there's a really big jackpot. No ambiguity, and the obligatory ironic consequences are well understood and can be planned for in advance!
Edit: On second thought, this applies equally to *any* genie wish situation. I've added nothing to this conversation. Damn.
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A genie appears, and tells you have three wishes subject to the following three laws:
A wish may not result in the allocation of additional wishes, nor through inaction allow a loophole to grant more wishes.
A wish may not contain, induce, or rely upon semantic, logical, temporal or other paradoxes, except where preventing or resolving such a paradox would require a violation of the First Law.
A wish must obey the literal wording of the wishee, with interpretation of any ambiguities at the discretion of the genie, except where the result would be in conflict with the First or Second law.
@ryanc “A wish may not result in the allocation of additional wishes”, is that to be understood as wishes to be acted upon by said genie?
If so, I wish for the unconstrained and unlimited ability to grant wishes for myself and others! -
A genie appears, and tells you have three wishes subject to the following three laws:
A wish may not result in the allocation of additional wishes, nor through inaction allow a loophole to grant more wishes.
A wish may not contain, induce, or rely upon semantic, logical, temporal or other paradoxes, except where preventing or resolving such a paradox would require a violation of the First Law.
A wish must obey the literal wording of the wishee, with interpretation of any ambiguities at the discretion of the genie, except where the result would be in conflict with the First or Second law.
The genie issue is simple, over complicated by us.
Genie offers you three wishes. But you only need one. Wish to be happy all of the time. It’s not about things. It’s about you.
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A genie appears, and tells you have three wishes subject to the following three laws:
A wish may not result in the allocation of additional wishes, nor through inaction allow a loophole to grant more wishes.
A wish may not contain, induce, or rely upon semantic, logical, temporal or other paradoxes, except where preventing or resolving such a paradox would require a violation of the First Law.
A wish must obey the literal wording of the wishee, with interpretation of any ambiguities at the discretion of the genie, except where the result would be in conflict with the First or Second law.
@ryanc I see we're still dealing with the "genies want you to suffer" loophole.
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@ryanc “A wish may not result in the allocation of additional wishes”, is that to be understood as wishes to be acted upon by said genie?
If so, I wish for the unconstrained and unlimited ability to grant wishes for myself and others!@ju "interpretation of any ambiguities at the discretion of the genie" - wishing for the ability to grant wishes definitely counts as allocation of additional wishes
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@ju "interpretation of any ambiguities at the discretion of the genie" - wishing for the ability to grant wishes definitely counts as allocation of additional wishes
@ryanc
but you can’t wish for anything then!
Even wishing for wealth or health could be viewed as giving abilities that will allow you to fulfill something in the future that would be a wish today… -
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The genie issue is simple, over complicated by us.
Genie offers you three wishes. But you only need one. Wish to be happy all of the time. It’s not about things. It’s about you.
@DziadekMick @ryanc happy all the time wouldn’t be living.
I imagine being unable to grieve losing someone important to me….
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A genie appears, and tells you have three wishes subject to the following three laws:
A wish may not result in the allocation of additional wishes, nor through inaction allow a loophole to grant more wishes.
A wish may not contain, induce, or rely upon semantic, logical, temporal or other paradoxes, except where preventing or resolving such a paradox would require a violation of the First Law.
A wish must obey the literal wording of the wishee, with interpretation of any ambiguities at the discretion of the genie, except where the result would be in conflict with the First or Second law.
@ryanc I ask the genie if rules 1 and 3 would prevent me from wishing for a large amount of money to be donated to the Make A Wish Foundation
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A genie appears, and tells you have three wishes subject to the following three laws:
A wish may not result in the allocation of additional wishes, nor through inaction allow a loophole to grant more wishes.
A wish may not contain, induce, or rely upon semantic, logical, temporal or other paradoxes, except where preventing or resolving such a paradox would require a violation of the First Law.
A wish must obey the literal wording of the wishee, with interpretation of any ambiguities at the discretion of the genie, except where the result would be in conflict with the First or Second law.
@ryanc
Seems a clear statement of classic Djinn / Genie interaction.
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@ryanc I see we're still dealing with the "genies want you to suffer" loophole.
@jwz What if they don't want the wisher to suffer, specifically, but to punish greed and other selfishness, and are normally provided an outlet by wishers?
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@DziadekMick @ryanc happy all the time wouldn’t be living.
I imagine being unable to grieve losing someone important to me….
That was the last reply I expected.
I see happiness no more than the ability to be happy with what one has. Unhappiness is wanting what you haven't got or resenting what's been taken away.
I don't know whether grieving is the only way to deal with bereavement. It's just what has become the norm. I have seen evidence of cultures where people mourn by partying and celebrating all that they've lost.
Imagine being able to readily accept that someone has passed.
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A genie appears, and tells you have three wishes subject to the following three laws:
A wish may not result in the allocation of additional wishes, nor through inaction allow a loophole to grant more wishes.
A wish may not contain, induce, or rely upon semantic, logical, temporal or other paradoxes, except where preventing or resolving such a paradox would require a violation of the First Law.
A wish must obey the literal wording of the wishee, with interpretation of any ambiguities at the discretion of the genie, except where the result would be in conflict with the First or Second law.
1. No climate change, because everything is electric, powered by ingenious renewable energy sources
2. No wars, because all nations are focused on peacemaking
3. No billionaires, because they are taxed out of existence.
Hmm... In theory, we wouldn't even *need* a genie to accomplish these things, just willpower.
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A genie appears, and tells you have three wishes subject to the following three laws:
A wish may not result in the allocation of additional wishes, nor through inaction allow a loophole to grant more wishes.
A wish may not contain, induce, or rely upon semantic, logical, temporal or other paradoxes, except where preventing or resolving such a paradox would require a violation of the First Law.
A wish must obey the literal wording of the wishee, with interpretation of any ambiguities at the discretion of the genie, except where the result would be in conflict with the First or Second law.
@ryanc this may violate law 1 depending on how it’s interpreted. But my first wish would be to know how to word my second and third wishes so as to avoid any unintended consequences before I am committed to them.
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A genie appears, and tells you have three wishes subject to the following three laws:
A wish may not result in the allocation of additional wishes, nor through inaction allow a loophole to grant more wishes.
A wish may not contain, induce, or rely upon semantic, logical, temporal or other paradoxes, except where preventing or resolving such a paradox would require a violation of the First Law.
A wish must obey the literal wording of the wishee, with interpretation of any ambiguities at the discretion of the genie, except where the result would be in conflict with the First or Second law.
@ryanc Yeah well I wish that there were no rules. No rule against that!
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That was the last reply I expected.
I see happiness no more than the ability to be happy with what one has. Unhappiness is wanting what you haven't got or resenting what's been taken away.
I don't know whether grieving is the only way to deal with bereavement. It's just what has become the norm. I have seen evidence of cultures where people mourn by partying and celebrating all that they've lost.
Imagine being able to readily accept that someone has passed.
@DziadekMick @ryanc love that. Thank you.
And yes I feel like in some ways grief is the distance from what is to what I want it to be.
To accept it immediately would maintain a calmer state as the feelings awash and move. I was looking forward to your reply
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@ryanc this may violate law 1 depending on how it’s interpreted. But my first wish would be to know how to word my second and third wishes so as to avoid any unintended consequences before I am committed to them.
@cacophonyoffailure I think that's valid and it would also be my first wish.
