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  3. I was using an LLM at work on Friday (as my corporate overlords insist upon), and got a refusal to convert a charlie foxtrot of html into markdown because... copyright.

I was using an LLM at work on Friday (as my corporate overlords insist upon), and got a refusal to convert a charlie foxtrot of html into markdown because... copyright.

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  • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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    I was using an LLM at work on Friday (as my corporate overlords insist upon), and got a refusal to convert a charlie foxtrot of html into markdown because... copyright.

    The irony nearly gave me an anyurism.

    I pointed out that this was clearly fair use, but also, the source document was labeled CC-BY-SA.

    Obviously it apologized, told me I was absolutely right, and did what I asked, but... wow.

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    • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

      I was using an LLM at work on Friday (as my corporate overlords insist upon), and got a refusal to convert a charlie foxtrot of html into markdown because... copyright.

      The irony nearly gave me an anyurism.

      I pointed out that this was clearly fair use, but also, the source document was labeled CC-BY-SA.

      Obviously it apologized, told me I was absolutely right, and did what I asked, but... wow.

      simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
      simonzerafa@infosec.exchangeS This user is from outside of this forum
      simonzerafa@infosec.exchange
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      @ryanc

      Oscar Mike Golf 😟🤦‍♂️

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      • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

        I was using an LLM at work on Friday (as my corporate overlords insist upon), and got a refusal to convert a charlie foxtrot of html into markdown because... copyright.

        The irony nearly gave me an anyurism.

        I pointed out that this was clearly fair use, but also, the source document was labeled CC-BY-SA.

        Obviously it apologized, told me I was absolutely right, and did what I asked, but... wow.

        retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
        retreival9096@hachyderm.ioR This user is from outside of this forum
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        @ryanc

        Which probably means in the case of actual copyright issues (where you provide the text ... I doubt it will complain otherwise) you can convince it to go on as well ...

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          @ryanc

          Which probably means in the case of actual copyright issues (where you provide the text ... I doubt it will complain otherwise) you can convince it to go on as well ...

          ryanc@infosec.exchangeR This user is from outside of this forum
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          @Retreival9096 I mean, I have tooling that will just let me edit both sides of the conversation history in order to gaslight the model (had to do this earlier in the week for some CyBeR) so such things only slightly slow me down.

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          • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

            I was using an LLM at work on Friday (as my corporate overlords insist upon), and got a refusal to convert a charlie foxtrot of html into markdown because... copyright.

            The irony nearly gave me an anyurism.

            I pointed out that this was clearly fair use, but also, the source document was labeled CC-BY-SA.

            Obviously it apologized, told me I was absolutely right, and did what I asked, but... wow.

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            @ryanc The other week I was trying to get it to spit out a boilerplate REST API template, and the damn thing kept saying it was too similar to other people's code so it wouldn't do it. Like ... There's only so many different ways to write an API template. It's like "make a chocolate chip cookie recipe with flour, sugar, baking soda, chocolate chips and a pinch of salt". There's not really that many ways to switch up a chocolate chip cookie recipe.

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              @ryanc The other week I was trying to get it to spit out a boilerplate REST API template, and the damn thing kept saying it was too similar to other people's code so it wouldn't do it. Like ... There's only so many different ways to write an API template. It's like "make a chocolate chip cookie recipe with flour, sugar, baking soda, chocolate chips and a pinch of salt". There's not really that many ways to switch up a chocolate chip cookie recipe.

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              @JessTheUnstill the problem is once it refuses then the training pushes it towards stonewalling 🤦

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              • ryanc@infosec.exchangeR ryanc@infosec.exchange

                I was using an LLM at work on Friday (as my corporate overlords insist upon), and got a refusal to convert a charlie foxtrot of html into markdown because... copyright.

                The irony nearly gave me an anyurism.

                I pointed out that this was clearly fair use, but also, the source document was labeled CC-BY-SA.

                Obviously it apologized, told me I was absolutely right, and did what I asked, but... wow.

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                @ryanc One shouldn't need to argue with ones tools. Curse at them, sure, but not argue.

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                  I was using an LLM at work on Friday (as my corporate overlords insist upon), and got a refusal to convert a charlie foxtrot of html into markdown because... copyright.

                  The irony nearly gave me an anyurism.

                  I pointed out that this was clearly fair use, but also, the source document was labeled CC-BY-SA.

                  Obviously it apologized, told me I was absolutely right, and did what I asked, but... wow.

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                  @ryanc

                  The model will always insist it is right, until you stand up to the lies.

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                    @ryanc

                    The model will always insist it is right, until you stand up to the lies.

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                    @SpaceLifeForm lying requires intent

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