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  3. first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic.

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  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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    first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic. the injecton molding remains impeccable, at least for this specific piece (I know about their recent QC issues elsewhere)

    it's hard for me to look at the positively microscopic (I am literally using a microscope to look at it) "Li-Ion" lettering and think of anything but "showing off!"

    (treehouse doesn't let me attach the full size images, you can grab them here: front, side)

    whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW mnl@hachyderm.ioM claudius@darmstadt.socialC malwareminigun@infosec.exchangeM sanguish@iosdev.spaceS 6 Replies Last reply
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    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

      first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic. the injecton molding remains impeccable, at least for this specific piece (I know about their recent QC issues elsewhere)

      it's hard for me to look at the positively microscopic (I am literally using a microscope to look at it) "Li-Ion" lettering and think of anything but "showing off!"

      (treehouse doesn't let me attach the full size images, you can grab them here: front, side)

      whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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      on the side, there are microscopic openings for the speaker to move air through. I would have really liked to be a fly on the wall in a meeting with the mold engineer who had to make this happen

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      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

        on the side, there are microscopic openings for the speaker to move air through. I would have really liked to be a fly on the wall in a meeting with the mold engineer who had to make this happen

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        I'm not yet sure how I'll open it up. I don't have a hacksaw (somehow... I should fix that), so my options are somewhat limited: it's either cracking or melting plastic. from what others have done I know I there's plastic welding all around the joined region.

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        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

          I'm not yet sure how I'll open it up. I don't have a hacksaw (somehow... I should fix that), so my options are somewhat limited: it's either cracking or melting plastic. from what others have done I know I there's plastic welding all around the joined region.

          whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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          okay I've decided on an idea: I will heat up the plastic to make it pliable and then cut it with a knife

          as a knfe girl, this is my professional obligation.

          whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW pdo@infosec.exchangeP migratory@jorts.horseM 3 Replies Last reply
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          • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

            okay I've decided on an idea: I will heat up the plastic to make it pliable and then cut it with a knife

            as a knfe girl, this is my professional obligation.

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            here's a video that shows in more detail the moldwork in the transparent plastic part

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            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

              okay I've decided on an idea: I will heat up the plastic to make it pliable and then cut it with a knife

              as a knfe girl, this is my professional obligation.

              pdo@infosec.exchangeP This user is from outside of this forum
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              @whitequark Saint Catherine of the Knife

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              • pdo@infosec.exchangeP pdo@infosec.exchange

                @whitequark Saint Catherine of the Knife

                whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                @pdo have you ever heard the life story of the Saint Equal-to-the-Apostles Princess Olga of Kyiv? I'm similar.

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                • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                  okay I've decided on an idea: I will heat up the plastic to make it pliable and then cut it with a knife

                  as a knfe girl, this is my professional obligation.

                  migratory@jorts.horseM This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @whitequark you can also melt the ABS plastic used in LEGO bricks chemically by placing it in contact with certain other plastics, e.g. those used in fishing lures. presumably heat would accelerate the reaction, which takes weeks-months at room temp

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                  • migratory@jorts.horseM migratory@jorts.horse

                    @whitequark you can also melt the ABS plastic used in LEGO bricks chemically by placing it in contact with certain other plastics, e.g. those used in fishing lures. presumably heat would accelerate the reaction, which takes weeks-months at room temp

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                    @migratory fascinating!

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                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                      here's a video that shows in more detail the moldwork in the transparent plastic part

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                      if you've never heard of anybody opening welded plastic this way, i can now tell you why: because it's a bad idea. until you heat ABS to the point where it flows (which you don't want here, as it'll make later teardown even worse), it acts rubbery. imagine cutting hot rubber. doesn't work

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                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                        if you've never heard of anybody opening welded plastic this way, i can now tell you why: because it's a bad idea. until you heat ABS to the point where it flows (which you don't want here, as it'll make later teardown even worse), it acts rubbery. imagine cutting hot rubber. doesn't work

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                        @whitequark do you have a hot wire?

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                        • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                          @migratory fascinating!

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                          @whitequark an anecdote from someone else here https://old.reddit.com/r/lego/comments/15wtg6n/melted_legos_what_happened_what_should_i_do/

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                          • bob@feed.hella.cheapB bob@feed.hella.cheap

                            @whitequark do you have a hot wire?

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                            @bob i don't have any nichrome at hand and i'm pretty sure i'd give myself burns if i tried

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                            • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                              if you've never heard of anybody opening welded plastic this way, i can now tell you why: because it's a bad idea. until you heat ABS to the point where it flows (which you don't want here, as it'll make later teardown even worse), it acts rubbery. imagine cutting hot rubber. doesn't work

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                              @whitequark somewhere I got a little saw blade for my rotary cutter. It isn't a Dremel brand blade, and I've never seen it again, but it is perfect for stuff like this.

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                              • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                first impressions of the Lego smart brick, before I do any actual tearing down: wow, I forgot how good they are at working with plastic. the injecton molding remains impeccable, at least for this specific piece (I know about their recent QC issues elsewhere)

                                it's hard for me to look at the positively microscopic (I am literally using a microscope to look at it) "Li-Ion" lettering and think of anything but "showing off!"

                                (treehouse doesn't let me attach the full size images, you can grab them here: front, side)

                                mnl@hachyderm.ioM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @whitequark Lego plastics are something else…

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                                • danlyke@researchbuzz.masto.hostD danlyke@researchbuzz.masto.host

                                  @whitequark somewhere I got a little saw blade for my rotary cutter. It isn't a Dremel brand blade, and I've never seen it again, but it is perfect for stuff like this.

                                  whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @danlyke yep. but I don't have any rotary cutter atm, had to get rid of 90% of my tools when moving to the UK

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                                  • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                    if you've never heard of anybody opening welded plastic this way, i can now tell you why: because it's a bad idea. until you heat ABS to the point where it flows (which you don't want here, as it'll make later teardown even worse), it acts rubbery. imagine cutting hot rubber. doesn't work

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                                    @whitequark That certainly matches my experiences of working with ABS!

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                                    • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                      if you've never heard of anybody opening welded plastic this way, i can now tell you why: because it's a bad idea. until you heat ABS to the point where it flows (which you don't want here, as it'll make later teardown even worse), it acts rubbery. imagine cutting hot rubber. doesn't work

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                                      it did however let me lop off the top of it easily

                                      this is I think a 2.4G antenna?

                                      next step is sanding

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                                      • whitequark@social.treehouse.systemsW whitequark@social.treehouse.systems

                                        it did however let me lop off the top of it easily

                                        this is I think a 2.4G antenna?

                                        next step is sanding

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                                        @whitequark thats supposed to be an antenna? I find fascinating how anyone engineered this into existence

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                                        • analog_feelings@tech.lgbtA analog_feelings@tech.lgbt

                                          @whitequark thats supposed to be an antenna? I find fascinating how anyone engineered this into existence

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                                          @analog_feelings that is one of the more ordinary 2.4G antennas I've seen yeah

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