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4 copters being launched to help keep Sandy Fire under control.

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  • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

    @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope @ai6yr similar stuff is happening in California. It's very rare to see a new wood shake roof anymore. By us in Monterey it's mostly asphalt shingles with some tile roofs as well. By my parents in the mountains it's 95% metal.

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    @douglasvb @natesiggard @MsMerope @ai6yr

    wood shingles have been illegal for a while but it's new "encouraging" insurance to pay for replacement.

    but climate change has meant more drought, more fires, more/bigger hail. i was able to get the highest rating roof.

    lake tahoe has been doing flammables clearance rules for a while. i'm expecting us to starting getting more laws in CO related to lawns (water use), bushes/trees (fire), fences (fire). right now, it's HOA specific; we need laws so all the HOA convenants get consistent.

    none of this risk is getting better.

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    • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

      @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope @ai6yr similar stuff is happening in California. It's very rare to see a new wood shake roof anymore. By us in Monterey it's mostly asphalt shingles with some tile roofs as well. By my parents in the mountains it's 95% metal.

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      @douglasvb @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope The last house with shake roof in this neighborhood burnt down 😬 (I think wood stove fire, the embers from their own stove set the roof on fire).

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      • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

        @douglasvb @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope The last house with shake roof in this neighborhood burnt down 😬 (I think wood stove fire, the embers from their own stove set the roof on fire).

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        @ai6yr @douglasvb @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope

        How do solar panels on roofs fare when there's a fire? They're pretty expensive, and if they are always getting ruined by fire or weather you'd never get your money back. Maybe these hide-away folding panels would survive better.

        Just a moment...

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        #solarenergy

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        • anne_delong@musician.socialA anne_delong@musician.social

          @ai6yr @douglasvb @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope

          How do solar panels on roofs fare when there's a fire? They're pretty expensive, and if they are always getting ruined by fire or weather you'd never get your money back. Maybe these hide-away folding panels would survive better.

          Just a moment...

          favicon

          (eepower.com)

          #solarenergy

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          @Anne_Delong @douglasvb @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope There's a lot of FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt) about solar panels among the right wing, conspiracy theory people. Lots of disinformation trying to dissuade people from solar panels.

          Payback time on panels (due to cost of electricity) in California has been about 5 years recently, it was 2 years for a bit. Probably will decrease with all the power companies jacking up rates, UNLESS, all the solar surcharges and whatnot they are putting into play counteract those savings. (huge push by the established utilities to NOT have people install solar panels, because they are worried about their profits and paying for infrastructure).

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          • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

            @Anne_Delong @douglasvb @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope There's a lot of FUD (Fear Uncertainty Doubt) about solar panels among the right wing, conspiracy theory people. Lots of disinformation trying to dissuade people from solar panels.

            Payback time on panels (due to cost of electricity) in California has been about 5 years recently, it was 2 years for a bit. Probably will decrease with all the power companies jacking up rates, UNLESS, all the solar surcharges and whatnot they are putting into play counteract those savings. (huge push by the established utilities to NOT have people install solar panels, because they are worried about their profits and paying for infrastructure).

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            @ai6yr @douglasvb @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope

            But do the panels repel sparks better than asphalt roofs? They're designed to take a certain amount of heat, but of course if the house goes up in flames they will be destroyed.

            The utility companies have a legitimate worry about the huge costs of building and maintaining the grid. In hot, sunny areas the panels help cut down peak load on sunny days, saving utilities from having to build for those peaks.

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            • anne_delong@musician.socialA anne_delong@musician.social

              @ai6yr @douglasvb @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope

              But do the panels repel sparks better than asphalt roofs? They're designed to take a certain amount of heat, but of course if the house goes up in flames they will be destroyed.

              The utility companies have a legitimate worry about the huge costs of building and maintaining the grid. In hot, sunny areas the panels help cut down peak load on sunny days, saving utilities from having to build for those peaks.

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              @Anne_Delong @douglasvb @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope

              Gizmodo: Republican Operatives Are Astroturfing Opposition to Solar Power

              A new report looks at a well-connected nonprofit that has been helping grassroots groups across the country fight local solar projects—with misinformation.

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              Republican Operatives Are Astroturfing Opposition to Solar Power

              A new report looks at a well-connected nonprofit that has been helping grassroots groups across the country fight local solar projects—with misinformation.

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              • ai6yr@m.ai6yr.orgA ai6yr@m.ai6yr.org

                @Anne_Delong @douglasvb @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope

                Gizmodo: Republican Operatives Are Astroturfing Opposition to Solar Power

                A new report looks at a well-connected nonprofit that has been helping grassroots groups across the country fight local solar projects—with misinformation.

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                Republican Operatives Are Astroturfing Opposition to Solar Power

                A new report looks at a well-connected nonprofit that has been helping grassroots groups across the country fight local solar projects—with misinformation.

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                @ai6yr @Anne_Delong @douglasvb @natesiggard @MsMerope

                the GOP is owned, lock, stock, and barrel by big oil and large corporations. they want to deregulate, monopolize, and squeeze consumers to pay for huge data centers and use lots of oil and coal to power electrical grids.

                FUD about renewable power is all part of the attempt to expand the US addiction to fossil fuels and shareholder profits over environmental concerns.

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                • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                  @douglasvb @natesiggard @MsMerope @ai6yr

                  wood shingles have been illegal for a while but it's new "encouraging" insurance to pay for replacement.

                  but climate change has meant more drought, more fires, more/bigger hail. i was able to get the highest rating roof.

                  lake tahoe has been doing flammables clearance rules for a while. i'm expecting us to starting getting more laws in CO related to lawns (water use), bushes/trees (fire), fences (fire). right now, it's HOA specific; we need laws so all the HOA convenants get consistent.

                  none of this risk is getting better.

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                  @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope @ai6yr that's definitely an interesting twist where the insurance companies are paying for it. I haven't seen that in California yet although the state and sometimes more local agencies have grants to help in certain circumstances.

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                  • paul_ipv6@infosec.exchangeP paul_ipv6@infosec.exchange

                    @ai6yr @Anne_Delong @douglasvb @natesiggard @MsMerope

                    the GOP is owned, lock, stock, and barrel by big oil and large corporations. they want to deregulate, monopolize, and squeeze consumers to pay for huge data centers and use lots of oil and coal to power electrical grids.

                    FUD about renewable power is all part of the attempt to expand the US addiction to fossil fuels and shareholder profits over environmental concerns.

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                    @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr @Anne_Delong @douglasvb @natesiggard

                    even as a kid, yes, I'm lold and lived through those odd/even gas days in the 70's

                    when I was a kid in the freaking 70s I wondered why we didn't invest more in solar and wind

                    WE COULD BE LEADING THE WORLD IN RENEWABLE TECHNOLOGY BY NOW.

                    😡 😡 😡 😡 😡

                    but nooooooooooo.............

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                    • douglasvb@m.ai6yr.orgD douglasvb@m.ai6yr.org

                      @paul_ipv6 @natesiggard @MsMerope @ai6yr that's definitely an interesting twist where the insurance companies are paying for it. I haven't seen that in California yet although the state and sometimes more local agencies have grants to help in certain circumstances.

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                      @douglasvb @natesiggard @MsMerope @ai6yr

                      CA and insurance have not been friends in CA for a while. CA offered shitty earthquake insurance and the insurance companies all bailed. PGE causes several massive fires due to not doing maintenance and they get a free pass and it's homeowners who lose.

                      CO has been looking at drought, climate change, fire seasons, and a super majority of Democrats has started doing legislation that actually favors consumers/voters. it's not perfect but we have had a few wins for the average person.

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                        @paul_ipv6 @ai6yr @Anne_Delong @douglasvb @natesiggard

                        even as a kid, yes, I'm lold and lived through those odd/even gas days in the 70's

                        when I was a kid in the freaking 70s I wondered why we didn't invest more in solar and wind

                        WE COULD BE LEADING THE WORLD IN RENEWABLE TECHNOLOGY BY NOW.

                        😡 😡 😡 😡 😡

                        but nooooooooooo.............

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                        @MsMerope @ai6yr @Anne_Delong @douglasvb @natesiggard

                        apparently, the brilliant plan by the current administration, let go by the GOP, is let the chinese win the renewables war...

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