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  3. maybe “the license is bad!” or “this violates so many people’s copyright!” isn’t the best reason to deny slop, but at least it’s A Reason.

maybe “the license is bad!” or “this violates so many people’s copyright!” isn’t the best reason to deny slop, but at least it’s A Reason.

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    maybe “the license is bad!” or “this violates so many people’s copyright!” isn’t the best reason to deny slop, but at least it’s A Reason.

    (my hot take: corporations have proven they don’t give a fuck about copyright by doing things like torrenting every written work ever published, and it sucks ass that this makes them more punk than supposedly counter-cultural movements and groups. violate licenses! steal code! sabotage open source projects that capitulate to Big Tech or Johnny Law in advance! there is no honor in continuing to abide by The Rules when your opponent has made it clear they won’t, and will continue to take advantage of you if you do; and if you don’t see them as your opponent you have already lost.)

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      maybe “the license is bad!” or “this violates so many people’s copyright!” isn’t the best reason to deny slop, but at least it’s A Reason.

      (my hot take: corporations have proven they don’t give a fuck about copyright by doing things like torrenting every written work ever published, and it sucks ass that this makes them more punk than supposedly counter-cultural movements and groups. violate licenses! steal code! sabotage open source projects that capitulate to Big Tech or Johnny Law in advance! there is no honor in continuing to abide by The Rules when your opponent has made it clear they won’t, and will continue to take advantage of you if you do; and if you don’t see them as your opponent you have already lost.)

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      tbh if someone wants to just yank GPL’d code to enable better filesystem support on OpenBSD, fuck it, that’s more honorable than asking LLMs (plural) to do it for you.

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        tbh if someone wants to just yank GPL’d code to enable better filesystem support on OpenBSD, fuck it, that’s more honorable than asking LLMs (plural) to do it for you.

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        I used to be all “just use the MIT license” or “there are situations where the GPL is the best we’ve got” but now I think exclusionary licenses are the way to go. Something like this https://ball.disco.coop/Peer_Production_License or “MIT but if your name is Elon Musk or you work for a company that he owns or does business with you owe me $10,000 per download” or “PPL unless you’re a fucking Nazi” all make more sense to me than “please take my freely given work and turn it into money because I will realistically have no recourse if you decide to steal it directly or launder it through LLMs except to be really, really self-righteous about it.”

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