The last two weeks have taught me any folks think "chat app" and "community platform" are synonymous.
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The last two weeks have taught me many folks think "chat app" and "community platform" are synonymous. That simply is not the case.
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The last two weeks have taught me many folks think "chat app" and "community platform" are synonymous. That simply is not the case.
@mttaggart @wjmaggos Painful, painful discussions going on right now
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The last two weeks have taught me many folks think "chat app" and "community platform" are synonymous. That simply is not the case.
@mttaggart sometimes it's hard to tell if it's willful ignorance or limited cognitive capacity.
this whole thing with "a.i." has me re-evaluating my assumptions of the majority of humans' intelligence levels.
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The last two weeks have taught me many folks think "chat app" and "community platform" are synonymous. That simply is not the case.
@mttaggart I actually prefer the older forum systems because threads are normal and history is easier to search. Discord is great for games where it provides a voice chat alternative, but for long term communities it can fall short of capturing shared knowledge. I hope more folks move back to forum software.
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@mttaggart I actually prefer the older forum systems because threads are normal and history is easier to search. Discord is great for games where it provides a voice chat alternative, but for long term communities it can fall short of capturing shared knowledge. I hope more folks move back to forum software.
@vpz @mttaggart I think the trap most fall into is they believe that a chat platform like Discord is valuable in the long term. But it's far less useful than a forum because finding context is hard. Threads are broken up and there are a lot of stub conversations that are useless. Forums automatically self-regulate this issue by design: you are automatically more intentional.
While probably jarring initially I'd love to see an ephemeral chat app that is feature rich like Discord. Everything is gone after some short amount of time. You could still have things like conversation summaries or a place to save useful files but the actual aspect of chat would be short lived (24h) which might make platforms like Slack and Discord feel much less like overhead and more like a conversation again.
As for the here and now, well, it's clear Discord is a complicit part in some number of deranged billionaire's grand vision to control the masses. Everyone should nope the fuck out.
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@vpz @mttaggart I think the trap most fall into is they believe that a chat platform like Discord is valuable in the long term. But it's far less useful than a forum because finding context is hard. Threads are broken up and there are a lot of stub conversations that are useless. Forums automatically self-regulate this issue by design: you are automatically more intentional.
While probably jarring initially I'd love to see an ephemeral chat app that is feature rich like Discord. Everything is gone after some short amount of time. You could still have things like conversation summaries or a place to save useful files but the actual aspect of chat would be short lived (24h) which might make platforms like Slack and Discord feel much less like overhead and more like a conversation again.
As for the here and now, well, it's clear Discord is a complicit part in some number of deranged billionaire's grand vision to control the masses. Everyone should nope the fuck out.
@windexh8er @vpz Discourse's real-time chat feature is ephemeral by design, intended for backchannel or off-topic conversations. It's not perfect, but it's the best mix I've found for community building.
That said, Discord has value other than what I'm interested in, and real-time is fine for those use cases. That's why Matrix, Rocket.Chat, etc. may fit the bill.
