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  • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL This user is from outside of this forum
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    Best news of the day!

    Maybe we can have a grown up StarTrek now where the big questions are discussed instead of dull characters talking about their feelings or someone is crying...

    #startrek #starfleetacademy #fail

    'Starfleet Academy' Will End After Season 2
    https://gizmodo.com/star-trek-starfleet-academy-canceled-paramount-2000736976

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    • littlealex@infosec.exchangeL littlealex@infosec.exchange

      Best news of the day!

      Maybe we can have a grown up StarTrek now where the big questions are discussed instead of dull characters talking about their feelings or someone is crying...

      #startrek #starfleetacademy #fail

      'Starfleet Academy' Will End After Season 2
      https://gizmodo.com/star-trek-starfleet-academy-canceled-paramount-2000736976

      claudius@darmstadt.socialC This user is from outside of this forum
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      @littlealex you know as well as anyone that there can be (and in fact are) multiple series in production at the same time.

      #StarfleetAcademy being cancelled does not get you *anything*. It is just shitty for everyone else who actually enjoys the series.

      In short: you are happy about other people's misery. What a sorry excuse of a person you must be.

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        @littlealex you know as well as anyone that there can be (and in fact are) multiple series in production at the same time.

        #StarfleetAcademy being cancelled does not get you *anything*. It is just shitty for everyone else who actually enjoys the series.

        In short: you are happy about other people's misery. What a sorry excuse of a person you must be.

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        @claudius Don't kink-shame me...

        Im not sure getting anything, of course, but the chances are better now. This show flopped bad and they will go back to the drawing board and talk about what went wrong.
        I doubt they will cancle the whole franchaise because they make good money with it, at least they did so in the past. They wil analyze what they changed and what worked and what not. This will influence the descissions for the next show. In the end they want to make money and this means they have to adapt to their audience, not vice versa. This will likely give me something I rather like to watch.

        Of course it's their IP and they can do with it whatever they want, but I can chose what to watch. I gave it a try, it was horrible and I stopped. So did millions of other people. Obviously there was not enough interest for this type of content. My guess now: they will not produce a new TV series for years but one ot two motion pictures in a more traditional style. This sounds much more entertaining for me.

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          @claudius Don't kink-shame me...

          Im not sure getting anything, of course, but the chances are better now. This show flopped bad and they will go back to the drawing board and talk about what went wrong.
          I doubt they will cancle the whole franchaise because they make good money with it, at least they did so in the past. They wil analyze what they changed and what worked and what not. This will influence the descissions for the next show. In the end they want to make money and this means they have to adapt to their audience, not vice versa. This will likely give me something I rather like to watch.

          Of course it's their IP and they can do with it whatever they want, but I can chose what to watch. I gave it a try, it was horrible and I stopped. So did millions of other people. Obviously there was not enough interest for this type of content. My guess now: they will not produce a new TV series for years but one ot two motion pictures in a more traditional style. This sounds much more entertaining for me.

          rasterinterrupt@oldbytes.spaceR This user is from outside of this forum
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          @littlealex @claudius Just think about how much money was spent to produce this crap. That could have been used for good Trek. Crybabies in space. Who would have thought it would flop?!?

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            @littlealex @claudius Just think about how much money was spent to produce this crap. That could have been used for good Trek. Crybabies in space. Who would have thought it would flop?!?

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            @rasterinterrupt @claudius

            Im not a subscriber to "go woke, go broke". Especially in the Star Trek universe diversity and being different was a key element of the whole concept. It was the base on how the big questions was discussed. Every character had it's special view, was accepted and respected and it made it a great way of showing different perspectives on the same issue. TNG was a little too much of a space opera for my taste, but it played the diversity part very well. Of course there is critique on certain things from todays view, like Troys outfit, but it didn't effect the meaning of the character.
            Starfleet Academy was just bad in many ways. Diversity was the only content, everything else was stuffing and a badly executed I have to add. I know for some people it's enough to see diversity on the screen, but for most people it's not. This show didn't crash and burn because of a right wing campain, it crashed because it was bad. It was bad because it was hollow and meaningless for the average Star Trek fan and likely for most occational watchers as well. The so called "modern audiences" either doesn't exist or are such a small minority they don't matter in the bigger picture. If they would exist there would be more audience, no matter who is campaining against it. The opposite, if certain groups like rightwingers or churches arguing against something, it makes me much more curious about it.
            I am really happy this is over because it makes way for a new apporach with hopefully better content. I am sad for some of the cast. There was some really promising young actors and actresses who will have this stain of the failed show on their record. Usually Hollywood doesn't give a second chance, especially not to TV actors. Moviestars sometimes can recover, I don't see this happening here. Also Kurtzman is done. He made some great shows like Fringe, but this failure will end his career or at least set it back to B or C class of TV shows. Even sadder, this example will show all other producers progressive content fails and since everything is about money, there will be a much more conservative approach to new shows.
            I am flabbergasted this all happened after part of this critique was already voiced in Star Trek Discovery. This has some more seasons, but after some time the producers realized their mistake and at least declared the show is no longer part of the official Star Trek universe. It broke too many rules, unable to recover... Now they did it again, but much worse...

            Completely different topic, but I want to come back to the "go woke, go broke". As I said I don't subscribe to it, because there are enough examples proving otherwise, like the "Little Mermaid" from 2023. Besides a big rightwing campain against it, it was financially and culturally successful. If the movie is good enough, it works.
            There are other examples where the approach "diversity is the content" failed and I really wonder why they did Starfleed beside this wellknown warnings. For me one of the most mindblowing fails in this area is what Jaguar did. Luxury cars are a special area of business, but also a little like the movie industry. Both is not neccesary for daily life, but people choose one or another brand to express their personality.
            Rolls Royce made an advertisment and Jaguar later copied the idea, but failed misserably. RR's ad was very stylish, no car was shown and a lot of diversity. It had great pictures in it, I would say it is art. Jaguar's ad was a complete desaster, damaging the brand beyond repair. In 2023 Jaguar sold some 65000 cars worldwide, 2024 it was cut in half after they announced a switch to EV. After the campain the car sales went in free fall, in April 2025 they sold 49 cars and in June 2025 only 6.

            This is the RR ad, the Jaguar ad I will put in the next post.

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